Re:Userscripts Are Fun and Are Still Very Much Relevant
by FalconSensei on Friday April 17, 2020 @11:25AM
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> I wonder if DDG has just caught onto this trend, and is prioritizing the language of the article that has the most editorial activity.
It should prioritize the language of the query. I'm supposing the commenter above searched for something in English and got a non-English result?
Re:Userscripts Are Fun and Are Still Very Much Relevant
by Waterluvian on Friday April 17, 2020 @11:28AM
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Yeah I was looking up some very straightforward things and I'd end up with non-English wiki pages on the first page, and the English wiki page for the same topic was... I guess maybe on later pages.
Re:Userscripts Are Fun and Are Still Very Much Relevant
by stjohnswarts on Friday April 17, 2020 @03:57PM
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Are you using a VPN? I've never seen a foreign language wiki article show up, and I've been using DDG for a couple of years.
Re:Userscripts Are Fun and Are Still Very Much Relevant
by Waterluvian on Friday April 17, 2020 @07:44PM
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Oh my. You know what. I might have been on a VPN.
It was only recently that I discovered that each language’s version of Wikipedia is independently edited, rather than being a translated reflection of a canonical source material; and, therefore, that inevitably there will be “better” or “worse” versions of a page (i.e. more/less content, more/less fact-checking, etc.) depending on the language.
This gulf sometimes turns out to be so large, that it’s sometimes more informative to read a foreign-language Wikipedia article through machine-translation, rather than reading the one in your own language!
(I recall, in the recent HN discussion that linked to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musth, people were pointing out that the German-language article carried a lot more information than the English-language article. That specific discrepancy has probably been since fixed up care of HN readers themselves, but it was eye-opening, especially since the English-language version of the article was phrased in decisive terms like “scientists don’t know X” where the German article instead says “X is caused by Y” citing enough [German-language] studies to thoroughly prove its point.)
I wonder if DDG has just caught onto this trend, and is prioritizing the language of the article that has the most editorial activity. (It would actually be more work to do the opposite, now that I think about it—in raw PageRank terms, there’s always going to be a most-linked-to language-version of a Wikipedia article, and doing nothing means that that version simply floats to the top. Google et al must be doing extra work to group the “same” articles of different language-versions together, assigning them the PageRank of the highest-ranked one in the grouping, while rendering out the link+summary as that of the group-member corresponding to your own language.)