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Re:Projecting the transmission dynamics of SARS-CoV-2 throug... by redis_mlc on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @06:30PM (#22883876)
Is it corona virus, or ventilators, killing them?

When you have a mortality rate of 66% to 90% for something tha isn't a hemorrhagic fever, it's the ventilator.

Re:Projecting the transmission dynamics of SARS-CoV-2 throug... by javagram on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @09:16PM (#22885120)
People were dying without ventilators in Wuhan and elsewhere. (E.g. all the people in NYC who are dying at home, something like 100 a day last I saw)

The ventilator from what people are saying doesn’t seem to help as much as was hoped, but it’s not like hospitals are killing the patients by putting them on a vent, which is what your comment seems to imply?

Re:Projecting the transmission dynamics of SARS-CoV-2 throug... by DanBC on Thursday April 16, 2020 @09:43AM (#22889252)
People dying in care and nursing homes are not on ventilators. This may be a significant number of covid-19 deaths.

https://ltccovid.org/2020/04/12/mortality-associated-with-co...

> Key findings:

> Official data on the numbers of people affected by COVID-19 is not available in many countries

> Due to differences in testing availabilities and policies, and to different approaches to recording deaths, international comparisons are difficult

> Data from 3 epidemiological studies in the United States show that as many as half of people with COVID-19 infections in care homes were asymptomatic (or pre-symptomatic) at the time of testing

> Data from 5 European countries suggest that care home residents have so far accounted for between 42% and 57% of all deaths related to COVID-19.

Re:Projecting the transmission dynamics of SARS-CoV-2 throug... by ummonk on Thursday April 16, 2020 @01:59AM (#22886563)
While there is speculation that ventilators might be worsening the situation, it's ridiculous to suggest that 66-90% of people with ARDS might die, with or without a ventilator. There are other ways to die from a viral lung infection than just hemorrhagic fever.
Re:Projecting the transmission dynamics of SARS-CoV-2 throug... by ummonk on Saturday April 18, 2020 @06:43PM (#22911733)
* meant to say "might not", not "might".