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Re:New iPhone SE by vbezhenar on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @05:34PM (#22883353)
I hate screen cases. But I bought one for iPhone 8 because this thing is not made to be used without case. I dropped it first day, it's just not convenient to hold. I had 4S for 6 years before and never dropped it.

iPhones went downwards as Jobs died.

Re:New iPhone SE by dijit on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @06:26PM (#22883836)
FWIW I firmly believe that the protruding camera array is a confirmation that they intend for phones to be in cases. There's no way it lies flush on a desk without a case.

It feels like really poor design unless that was the express intent.

Re:New iPhone SE by saagarjha on Thursday April 16, 2020 @06:44AM (#22888042)
The design is fine, if ugly on a phone, but it’s utterly bonkers on an iPad, which you put down on a table to write on and doesn’t even see that much camera usage…
Re:New iPhone SE by masklinn on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @06:04PM (#22883642)
Had the same experience with a 6S, coming from a 4s.

Don’t know if it’s the phone or me but the 11 is fine so far.

I think it’s a mix of the 6-8 design being too thin for rounded borders and the metal back being super slippery compared to glass.

Re:New iPhone SE by lemoncucumber on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @10:24PM (#22885443)
The 6/6s/7 had an aluminum back, but the 8 and now the new SE have a glass back, presumably to support wireless charging.