Ring 0 of fire: Does Riot Games’ new anti-cheat measure go too far?

Re:Ring 0 of fire: Does Riot Games’ new anti-cheat measure g... by Nursie on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @04:37AM (#22875703)

> "This isn’t giving us any surveillance capability we didn’t already have," Riot noted in its blog post (using language that isn't exactly comforting on its own). "If we cared about grandma’s secret recipe for the perfect Christmas casserole, we’d find no issue in obtaining it strictly from user-mode and then selling it to The Food Network."

So not only are they injecting kernel level code and running it from boot, but they're being flippant about the level of control this gives them and downplaying the security implications here.

This gives me serious pause, because I have work on my gaming machine too, some of which is confidential client information, and confidential personal information as well. It's getting to the stage that games, a distraction, can't be trusted to be on the same machine as anything else.

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Re:Ring 0 of fire: Does Riot Games’ new anti-cheat measure g... by Razengan on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @04:56AM (#22875780)

> It's getting to the stage that games, a distraction, can't be trusted to be on the same machine as anything else.

The iOS/macOS sandbox, for games purchased through the App Store/Apple Arcade, provides some degree of reassurance.

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Re:Ring 0 of fire: Does Riot Games’ new anti-cheat measure g... by Nursie on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @05:10AM (#22875843)

Unfortunately the continuing spat between Apple and Nvidia, and the lack of games available, make the Mac a path less travelled for gamers.

Which is a shame, I'd love to use it for more, but it's poorly supported.

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Re:Ring 0 of fire: Does Riot Games’ new anti-cheat measure g... by Razengan on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @03:42PM (#22882126)

I've been gaming on a Mac for years. There are many Windows-only games, but I don't really miss that operating system. Between native Mac ports and the Nintendo Switch/3DS, my gaming needs are well covered. When there's something I really badly want to try on Windows, I fire up CrossOver, Parallels, or Boot Camp, in that order.

Right now the GPU in my 2019 16" MBP (5300M) seems to be good enough for everything I want to play, and the 5500M is said to be even better. Of course the problem remains optimization for macOS which most ported games don't have.

Apple Arcade is actually a ray of hope, even for core gamers. There's some good stuff on it, give it a try.

Right now I'm going to remove anything Riot-related I find on my macOS installation.

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