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Re:A Long Time Until the Economic New Normal by rwmj on Friday April 10, 2020 @10:40AM (#22833458)
For many people outside the highly paid HN reading bubble that's a huge windfall.
Re:A Long Time Until the Economic New Normal by dustingetz on Friday April 10, 2020 @10:56AM (#22833645)
Realistically if you're poor with credit card debt, $1200 adds two months runway from default dead state of losing your housing, (so at least you're not instantly wiped out as of April's eviction notice date)
Re:A Long Time Until the Economic New Normal by jointpdf on Friday April 10, 2020 @10:51AM (#22833582)
It’s really not. Even in a low cost of living area, $1.2K is about one month of basic living expenses.
Re:A Long Time Until the Economic New Normal by jointpdf on Friday April 10, 2020 @11:08AM (#22833777)
Re: rwmj

I used to do taxes for extremely poor (<$10K yearly income) people in Michigan as a volunteer thing. For most of them, I could get the ~$3.5-5K earned income tax credit. A huge windfall? No, these people need that money for basic expenses like feeding their kids.

I can guarantee you these same folks—and the millions that suddenly lost their jobs—are not looking at a $1200 check and thinking, “sweet, 6 months of weed money!”.

But yeah, I’m “thinking about it wrong”.

Re:A Long Time Until the Economic New Normal by rwmj on Friday April 10, 2020 @10:57AM (#22833655)
You're thinking about this wrong: consider it terms of how much floating cash you have available. If you are paid $2000/mo but pay out $1800/mo in living expenses (rent, bills and food), then you have $200/mo to spend on fun. Then you receive a check for $1200, that's 6 months of fun in one go.

If you are paid weekly, the amount of cash you have in your pocket might only be $50, and then only on a Friday night, so $1200 looks like an extraordinary windfall.

Re:A Long Time Until the Economic New Normal by beamatronic on Friday April 10, 2020 @10:57AM (#22833651)
...which is a huge windfall.

Has anyone on here ever actually been poor before? Genuinely curious.

Re:A Long Time Until the Economic New Normal by frosted-flakes on Friday April 10, 2020 @11:34AM (#22834071)
I grew up in a poor family. Not poor enough that we ever went hungry, but that was partly because of the generosity of friends/family who would sometimes buy us groceries. Us kids certainly never got new clothes (there was a steady stream of hand-me-downs from the older kids and other families we knew).

Being self-employed, my dad's income was irregular and often came in $5000 chunks. You might call that a windfall, but my parents were disciplined enough with their money that it automatically went into a savings account for the next mortgage payments, or to pay off credit card debt[1]. We weren't suddenly going out to eat when a cheque came in (in fact, when I was 10 or so, I remember helping my mom enter receipts into her big accounting book, and the total restaurant expenses for the entire year was something like $30).

I don't think we were ever officially under the poverty line, but with a family of 11 in a high cost of living area, the money had to go a lot farther than normal.

[1]: Unfortunately, they weren't disciplined enough to build up and maintain an emergency fund to carry them through rough times, so they relied on a low-interest credit card for essentials way too often.

Re:A Long Time Until the Economic New Normal by onion2k on Friday April 10, 2020 @10:51AM (#22833574)
Not enough to buy a car though, especially if you've also lost your job.