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Re:Tell HN: Cisco WebEx on OS X uses the same pre-installer ... by berti on Thursday April 09, 2020 @12:26AM (#22819772)
> “this installer will run a script _to determine if the package can be installed_”

Why would the user expect that script to install the application, or even modify their system in any way?

Re:Tell HN: Cisco WebEx on OS X uses the same pre-installer ... by californical on Thursday April 09, 2020 @02:44AM (#22820360)
The fact that Apple allows an application to be installed in this step is an issue with Apple's design.
Re:Tell HN: Cisco WebEx on OS X uses the same pre-installer ... by saagarjha on Thursday April 09, 2020 @02:52AM (#22820388)
It’s a script, though; should they sandbox the preinstall phase? That would break most packages.
Re:Tell HN: Cisco WebEx on OS X uses the same pre-installer ... by steerablesafe on Thursday April 09, 2020 @03:48AM (#22820592)
Instead of silently breaking they could have a popup like "Do you allow the preinstall script to write into /this/folder?" on a write operation outside of the sandbox.
Re:Tell HN: Cisco WebEx on OS X uses the same pre-installer ... by the_pwner224 on Thursday April 09, 2020 @09:44AM (#22822454)
99% of users will have no fucking idea what that means. They will either click 'Allow' (which makes this feature useless for 99% of people) or contact tech support (adds friction to installation, which is bad especially for conferencing software) or just give up and not use the product (which is bad for the company).
Re:Tell HN: Cisco WebEx on OS X uses the same pre-installer ... by catalogia on Thursday April 09, 2020 @10:48AM (#22823042)
To be fair, it would at least ruin Zoom's incentive to do any of this, since they wanted a streamlined process that prompts the user less.

Why they didn't just use a dmg that has you drag the application into /Applications/ is something I still don't understand though. Surely that is the simplest most user friendly way to have non-technical users install applications without using the appstore.

Re:Tell HN: Cisco WebEx on OS X uses the same pre-installer ... by catalogia on Thursday April 09, 2020 @03:09AM (#22820449)
Maybe so, but that doesn't excuse those exploiting that flaw.
Re:Tell HN: Cisco WebEx on OS X uses the same pre-installer ... by CGamesPlay on Thursday April 09, 2020 @08:08AM (#22821747)
To be fair, Apple has rectified this flaw by writing the Mac App Store, where applications can't pull these shenanigans and are properly sandboxed from one another.
Re:Tell HN: Cisco WebEx on OS X uses the same pre-installer ... by lonelappde on Thursday April 09, 2020 @12:34PM (#22824287)
Why is the store relevant to sandboxing?
Re:Tell HN: Cisco WebEx on OS X uses the same pre-installer ... by CGamesPlay on Thursday April 09, 2020 @08:01PM (#22828527)
They only allow sandboxed apps to be placed on the store.