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Re:US Hospitals say feds are seizing masks and other coronav... by mytailorisrich on Wednesday April 08, 2020 @03:21AM (#22810746)
What make you think that US's handling has been better than most European countries?

The situation looks worse to me.

Re:US Hospitals say feds are seizing masks and other coronav... by ekianjo on Wednesday April 08, 2020 @03:33AM (#22810806)
> The situation looks worse to me.

What matters is numbers, not how things "look".

Re:US Hospitals say feds are seizing masks and other coronav... by mytailorisrich on Wednesday April 08, 2020 @03:50AM (#22810872)
Yes, and if I look at the numbers it does look worse to me.

New York has a population of 20 million and it currently has a number of dead comparable to the UK with a population of 67 million, for example. New Jersey seems to fare worse than Switzerland with a comparable population, for another example.

Re:US Hospitals say feds are seizing masks and other coronav... by earthtourist on Wednesday April 08, 2020 @03:57AM (#22810902)
By that metric, California is doing 10x better than Switzerland with 4x the population. And 10x better than the UK with 0.6x the population.

There are so many variables involved that it's hard to know how to rationally compare different regions. How much is demographics, population density, and other variables vs competence.

Re:US Hospitals say feds are seizing masks and other coronav... by mytailorisrich on Wednesday April 08, 2020 @04:04AM (#22810944)
Europe is ahead of the US in this pandemic so it's not currently possible to say that somewhere in the US is doing better than a comparable location in Europe based on the raw numbers (for that one would need to look at stats relative to e.g. time since n cases).

On the other hand, it is possible to say if they seem to be doing worse.

Re:US Hospitals say feds are seizing masks and other coronav... by earthtourist on Wednesday April 08, 2020 @04:16AM (#22811012)
Unless the spread was much faster in some areas than others due to population density, for instance. Back to the confounding variables question...
Re:US Hospitals say feds are seizing masks and other coronav... by DanBC on Wednesday April 08, 2020 @04:32AM (#22811088)
It's a bit tricky to compare regions because they test differently, and they count death differently.

Most of the threads comparing death across countries don't say how each of those countries is counting the deaths.

Re:US Hospitals say feds are seizing masks and other coronav... by TeMPOraL on Wednesday April 08, 2020 @03:43AM (#22810844)
And US numbers look really, really bad compared to Europe.
Re:US Hospitals say feds are seizing masks and other coronav... by SnowProblem on Wednesday April 08, 2020 @04:29AM (#22811074)
Do they? Take the 5 major countries in western Europe - UK, France, Germany, Spain, and Italy. Together they have ~325M people, which is about the size of the US.

Both total cases and total deaths are higher than US. Total deaths is 4x worse. What numbers are you looking at?

Re:US Hospitals say feds are seizing masks and other coronav... by NickNameNick on Wednesday April 08, 2020 @06:20AM (#22811629)
All the numbers will double every 3.5 days if not properly controlled.

Give it a week and see how close the US is to overtaking Europe.

Re:US Hospitals say feds are seizing masks and other coronav... by loopz on Wednesday April 08, 2020 @03:55AM (#22810893)
To be fair, compare US to 1/2 of Europe. So we won't know until first wave breaks.