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Re:Hydroxychloroquine Update for April 6 by tptacek on Monday April 06, 2020 @07:23PM (#22798915)
Repeating myself, but: there's an extent to which that trial has already been running naturally, since lots and lots of people take doses of HCQ comparable to the C19 protocol already, for rheumatoid arthritis. Lots of those people are getting C19. Are you seeing reports that arthritic patients who get C19 are faring better?
Re:Hydroxychloroquine Update for April 6 by beagle3 on Monday April 06, 2020 @07:44PM (#22799038)
I have not seen any co-occurence statistics. As both lupus and rheumatoid arthritis are at about 1% (each), and many of them are taking HCQ, then if HCQ works[0] I would expect much fewer of them to be diagnosed with SARS-Cov-2 in the first place. This is something that the CDC _should_ be able to track, and doesn't even require any ethically questionable trials.

[0] and somehow the Lupus/RA mechanics are not influencing disease progress, which is not a trivial assumption, but does not disqualify the thought experiment entirely.

Re:Hydroxychloroquine Update for April 6 by HarryHirsch on Monday April 06, 2020 @07:45PM (#22799044)
People with rheumatoid arthritis are not a good population to study. We know that certain comorbidities increase death rate. Now you have people with immune system problems taking an immunosuppressive drug. The outcome tells you nothing.
Re:Hydroxychloroquine Update for April 6 by tptacek on Monday April 06, 2020 @07:48PM (#22799064)
Jeremy Faust does not agree with you.

https://twitter.com/jeremyfaust/status/1246801663345618944

But it's still being given, so I'm certain there are other doctors still holding out hope.

Re:Hydroxychloroquine Update for April 6 by HarryHirsch on Monday April 06, 2020 @08:24PM (#22799256)
He says "If it does work, itβ€˜s not as good as you hope it is" and "STUDY THE DRUGS!" What he doesn't say is "lovely natural experiment" and "GREAT Stuff".
Re:Hydroxychloroquine Update for April 6 by hexl on Monday April 06, 2020 @07:29PM (#22798970)
Are you seeing reports of the opposite?