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Re:Sara Blakely Is Giving $5M to Support Female-Run Small Bu... by monocasa on Monday April 06, 2020 @01:02PM (#22795423)
The idea is that women have less access to various support networks that men do, typically referred to as the "boy's club", and therefore create their own replacements.
Re:Sara Blakely Is Giving $5M to Support Female-Run Small Bu... by haunter on Monday April 06, 2020 @01:05PM (#22795465)
Depends what do you mean by "support networks". Like social? Or just purely economy based. Cause if social then I'd say it's the exact oppopsite, one of the main reason men has 3-4x higher suicide rate than women in the west.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_differences_in_suicide

Re:Sara Blakely Is Giving $5M to Support Female-Run Small Bu... by monocasa on Monday April 06, 2020 @01:11PM (#22795538)
> Like social? Or just purely economy based.

It's both.

> Cause if social then I'd say it's the exact oppopsite, one of the main reason men has 3-4x higher suicide rate than women in the west.

Those stats are very different depending on the social class. Men have fewer support networks in lower social class, but more in the upper classes. Given that we're talking about business owners, that's the range we're talking about.

Re:Sara Blakely Is Giving $5M to Support Female-Run Small Bu... by zozbot234 on Monday April 06, 2020 @01:16PM (#22795596)
Small business owners are hardly "upper class".
Re:Sara Blakely Is Giving $5M to Support Female-Run Small Bu... by monocasa on Monday April 06, 2020 @01:21PM (#22795647)
The equity involved makes almost all small business owners at least upper middle class.
Re:Sara Blakely Is Giving $5M to Support Female-Run Small Bu... by oh_sigh on Monday April 06, 2020 @01:09PM (#22795510)
I also wonder what percentage of men(or male business owners) believe they are in or have access to a "boy's club"
Re:Sara Blakely Is Giving $5M to Support Female-Run Small Bu... by monocasa on Monday April 06, 2020 @01:14PM (#22795574)
Given amount of people I've talked to that believe they pulled themselves up by their boot straps, and then find out they have a trust fund or where able to find a couple hundred thousand from a friends and family fund round, I'm not sure how much that stat matters.
Re:Sara Blakely Is Giving $5M to Support Female-Run Small Bu... by oh_sigh on Monday April 06, 2020 @06:19PM (#22798443)
It matters if you're painting women as disadvantaged by not being be part of one, but, say, 99%+ of men don't belong to one. Meanwhile, ignoring women-only support networks(like the kind that gives $5M to female business owners....)
Re:Sara Blakely Is Giving $5M to Support Female-Run Small Bu... by monocasa on Tuesday April 07, 2020 @03:13PM (#22806460)
The "boy's club" isn't a formal institution. It's not like something you carry a card for.
Re:Sara Blakely Is Giving $5M to Support Female-Run Small Bu... by oh_sigh on Tuesday April 07, 2020 @11:19PM (#22809737)
I don't think anyone ever thought it was
Re:Sara Blakely Is Giving $5M to Support Female-Run Small Bu... by zozbot234 on Monday April 06, 2020 @01:10PM (#22795536)
Yes of course, but that's not very relevant. OP is specifically addressing business support, not social networks.
Re:Sara Blakely Is Giving $5M to Support Female-Run Small Bu... by allendoerfer on Monday April 06, 2020 @01:17PM (#22795613)
I doubt that boy's clubs will save you right now. But maybe I just have not found the right clubs yet.
Re:Sara Blakely Is Giving $5M to Support Female-Run Small Bu... by HBKXNCUO on Monday April 06, 2020 @01:37PM (#22795837)
>The idea is that women have less access to various support networks that men do

Source? Is there a rigorous definition of a support network, and some statistics showing that women have less access to them?

Re:Sara Blakely Is Giving $5M to Support Female-Run Small Bu... by monocasa on Monday April 06, 2020 @01:59PM (#22796100)
Quite a few, here's one example. https://www.nber.org/papers/w26530
Re:Sara Blakely Is Giving $5M to Support Female-Run Small Bu... by HBKXNCUO on Monday April 06, 2020 @02:16PM (#22796266)
>Quite a few

Convenient.

Where do they suggest a rigorous definition of a support group in that article?

Re:Sara Blakely Is Giving $5M to Support Female-Run Small Bu... by monocasa on Monday April 06, 2020 @02:20PM (#22796315)
> Convenient.

So wait, let me get this straight

'I want an example of a study with data'

'here you go'

'well, well, well isn't that just convenient'

From here it feels like you're not approaching this argument in good faith.

> Where do they suggest a rigorous definition of a support group in that article?

They cover their methodology pretty clearly.

Re:Sara Blakely Is Giving $5M to Support Female-Run Small Bu... by HBKXNCUO on Monday April 06, 2020 @02:24PM (#22796354)
I don't think you could have gotten that less straight. What is convenient is that many definitions exist, so a convenient one can be chosen based on its suitability for making a particular argument at a particular time.

>They cover their methodology pretty clearly.

OK, but where do they suggest a rigorous definition of a support network, which is what I asked about?