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Re:Coronavirus and Credibility by martinko on Monday April 06, 2020 @06:04AM (#22792233)
Of all the conspiracy theories out there, the 'caused by 5G masts' is the one that confuses me the most. I get the possible aversion to 5G, but how does one make the leap from that to it causing COVID?
Re:Coronavirus and Credibility by jpxw on Monday April 06, 2020 @06:17AM (#22792305)
I’ve tried to understand them, their rationale appears include:

- 5G occurred at the same time as corona - This is therefore “too much of a coincidence”

- 5G kills off things that naturally kill coronavirus

- 5G makes our immune systems weaker

All of which are unfounded of course. But it’s important not to just reject people’s ideas out-of-hand, or to suppress them.

Re:Coronavirus and Credibility by mindslight on Monday April 06, 2020 @04:10PM (#22797275)
My aunt sent me a video asking my opinion (yay?), and I've been hearing ominous FUD about "5G" long enough that I wanted to see where it was actually coming from. So I watched it.

The bit I gleaned was the claim that since 60GHz is absorbed by oxygen (haven't checked this, but I'd assume similar to 2.4GHz being absorbed by water), it therefore interferes with your lungs' ability to intake oxygen. (my low-effort analysis: the radio waves won't penetrate your skin by more than a few millimeters, and therefore could in no way act in your lungs)

The whole narrative was much jumping around making connections that would seem plausible if you don't know or try to investigate technical details. For example - a defense contractor worked on 60GHz gear as well as communications for cruise ships -> smoking gun!

I'm sure there was plenty of innuendo that rolled right off my back, but makes an emotional impression. My aunt had gotten the impression that 5G is 50-60 times the power of a microwave oven. I couldn't bring myself to watch the video again to find what could possibly be interpreted this way, but I'm guessing it was talking about the frequency while implying magnitude.

Re:Coronavirus and Credibility by technion on Monday April 06, 2020 @06:57AM (#22792563)
The argument all over my facebook feed is that Africa is both the only country with no Coronavirus and the only country with no 5G. But really, these are the same friends arguing for flat earth in a lot of cases.
Re:Coronavirus and Credibility by ldrndll on Monday April 06, 2020 @07:11AM (#22792648)
The number of things wrong with this makes me despair.

1. Africa is a continent, not a country. 2. Some countries in Africa DO have 5G deployments, including my home country of South Africa. In the news recently is a possible link between BCG vaccinations and reduced fatality rates from Covid-19. South Africa has fairly high BCG vaccination rates due to the prevalence of TB 3. Iran has a severe problem with Covid-19, but no 5G deployments.

But as you say, this comes from the same type of crowd that believes in all the other bullshit (flat earth, vaccinations give you autism, etc.) so you can hardly expect an informed response to this.

Re:Coronavirus and Credibility by Beltiras on Monday April 06, 2020 @07:16AM (#22792670)
For every reasoned answer you give them an avalanche of utter bullshit flows forth. This might be one of those rare occasions where the solution to bad speech is not more speech. The mind of the conspiracy believers is just too darned efficient at justifying bad reasoning.
Re:Coronavirus and Credibility by Kaiyou on Monday April 06, 2020 @08:26AM (#22793088)
Alternatively your reasoned answer wasn't as good as you think it was.
Re:Coronavirus and Credibility by Beltiras on Monday April 06, 2020 @08:29AM (#22793103)
To the conspiracy minded no answer is good enough.
Re:Coronavirus and Credibility by filoleg on Monday April 06, 2020 @06:22PM (#22798463)
Yes, but to those who are undecided and are on the edge, a good answer might pull them to the right side. I know for a fact that it happened to me multiple times, when I saw a heated argument between two people (mostly on technical topics though, not something like corona).
Re:Coronavirus and Credibility by Kaiyou on Monday April 06, 2020 @08:30AM (#22793113)
@Beltiras Or maybe that's just your excuse to not even try.
Re:Coronavirus and Credibility by Kaiyou on Monday April 06, 2020 @08:29AM (#22793108)
Maybe unfounded but it's no like I can't see where they are coming from. Neither do I have the ability to refute any of those points.
Re:Coronavirus and Credibility by jl6 on Monday April 06, 2020 @06:11AM (#22792260)
Your mistake is assuming people are using reason to come up with that theory :)
Re:Coronavirus and Credibility by rmu09 on Monday April 06, 2020 @06:16AM (#22792296)
IMO this is deliberate mis-information, some type of info-guerilla, to stir and channel anger against the establishment.
Re:Coronavirus and Credibility by takeda on Monday April 06, 2020 @02:44PM (#22796543)
Yep, this also comes packaged with NWO, there is one country that actively works on spreading this crap on social media, I believe the goal is to weaken Western countries by setting up their citizens against their own government.
Re:Coronavirus and Credibility by ForHackernews on Monday April 06, 2020 @06:36AM (#22792428)
5G comes from China; coronavirus comes from China.

REALLY JUST A COINCIDENCE!? /s