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Re:Yet another novel I will no longer write by SpicyLemonZest on Saturday April 04, 2020 @04:59PM (#22781472)
The article defines elite panic as a false panic; a "cognitive disorder", caused by elites who look down on the rest of us and think we're all violent hooligans. If people really are trying to kill them, I don't think "panic" is an accurate term and I can't blame them for taking steps to avoid being murdered.
Re:Yet another novel I will no longer write by rumanator on Saturday April 04, 2020 @05:10PM (#22781554)
> The article defines elite panic as a false panic; a "cognitive disorder", caused by elites who look down on the rest of us and think we're all violent hooligans.

Yes. It's a belief based on pseudo-morality, where those who are not privileged are portrayed as being rude uncultured barbarians who, without resorting to extreme violence and oppression, would represent a threat to their pure and pristine existence and social order.

It's the same argument that slave owners used to justify beating slaves to death.

>If people really are trying to kill them, I don't think "panic" is an accurate term and I can't blame them for taking steps to avoid being murdered.

You somehow left out the part where these elites resort to extreme violence and oppression to deprive their neighbors from fulfilling basic needs and instead of helping the community they outright represent a very real and very violent threat to them.

And then, as a feat of cognitive dissonance, these elites cowarding behind their castle walls try to fabricate a moral basis for the violence and oppression they inflict on the very society that permitted their life of privilege.

Re:Yet another novel I will no longer write by SpicyLemonZest on Saturday April 04, 2020 @05:18PM (#22781595)
History strongly suggests that, in periods of disorder, even elites who did not resort to extreme violence and oppression will get murdered. ISIS didn't grant any leniency to nice elites who were well-loved by their local community.
Re:Yet another novel I will no longer write by Retric on Saturday April 04, 2020 @08:20PM (#22782622)
That’s simply false. The aftermath of the American civil war for example worked out fine for large swaths of southern elites compared to the general population. Social disorder generally is bad for everyone, but the elites often recover faster with fewer problems.

Looking at say the fall of the USSR it was well connected elites that ended up making vast fortunes.

Re:Yet another novel I will no longer write by Barrin92 on Saturday April 04, 2020 @09:13PM (#22782941)
>If people really are trying to kill them, I don't think "panic" is an accurate term and I can't blame them

This is akin to saying "well if some wifes cheat, being a paranoid, jealous husband is perfectly reasonable". It's not that bad things never happen to elites, it's a cognitive disorder because the paranoia is structural, regardless of what actually happens.

It's a disorder because the panic is a function of their social status and their position in society that they know is to a degree unearned (in particular in countries like South Africa or wheverever else the elite is a hereditary class), so in a sense they anticipate the resentment that is rightfully coming their way.

It's like, if you're a habitual liar and thief you also tend to think everyone else is as opportunistic as you are, and sometimes you're right, but that's not why you believe it in the first place.

Re:Yet another novel I will no longer write by mcguire on Saturday April 04, 2020 @06:45PM (#22782146)
You are making the same mistake as the elites who are panicking: someone is trying to kill them (Or, more likely, use the capabilities they have in order to improve their situation, at the expense of the elites. Killing people is usually less an end goal than kidnapping or theft.), therefore everyone who is not a similar elite is a "violent hooligan".
Re:Yet another novel I will no longer write by kevin_thibedeau on Sunday April 05, 2020 @11:44AM (#22786210)
This is more an outgrowth of the British fixation on immutable class distinctions locked at birth.