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Re:How I lost control of our bank accounts to a phone scammer by andybak on Saturday April 04, 2020 @05:24AM (#22777189)
Don't get me started on Paypal. They send emails from a domain that isn't paypal.com with login links in the email that point to a domain that isn't paypal.com

I genuinely can't distinguish official Paypal emails from phishing emails - and that's because the Paypal emails look like bad phishing emails rather than because phishing emails are so sophisticated.

EDIT: Good write up here: https://cantoriscomputing.wordpress.com/2017/03/04/paypals-e...

Re:How I lost control of our bank accounts to a phone scammer by avip on Saturday April 04, 2020 @07:21AM (#22777621)
I've reported such emails to [email protected] and never got a reply. Maddening. I never open mails from PayPal now - better safe than sorry.

Edit: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15296425

Re:How I lost control of our bank accounts to a phone scammer by steelframe on Saturday April 04, 2020 @11:11AM (#22778659)
The last time I attempted to sell something on eBay, twice in a row a scammer -- presumably in the Ukraine -- won the auction and then proceeded to send me a spoofed Paypal payment confirmation (from: [email protected]) written in Cyrillic. The mailing address was a drop ship company in New Jersey. Then they were aggressive about sending me messages like, "I paid, have you sent it yet??"

I ignored them and sent the spoofed emails to the spoof addresses at both eBay and Paypal, which seemed to be entirely ignored. After the required amount of time passed I reported the auction winners as non-paying, and I finally got my seller's fees "refunded" to my eBay account.

Then, a couple of weeks ago, I attempted to get eBay to actually transfer my fee credit to my bank account. eBay responded with, "We would really love to help you out with this. but due to COVID-19 we can't."

Somehow one of the fraudulent buyers has had an eBay account since 2012, and it's still active and has a 92% positive feedback rating. Their current auctions include a used gynecological examination chair. It's as if they're flaunting the fact that they can get away with whatever they're doing without being held accountable by either eBay or Paypal.

Re:How I lost control of our bank accounts to a phone scammer by avianlyric on Saturday April 04, 2020 @06:36AM (#22777456)
As a bank we do the same thing. Driven by the fact we don’t want our login emails to come from a domain that also sends “normal” emails in case spam filters start dropping emails from our primary domain.

This isn’t a hypothetical concern either, having spam filter go crazy happens more often than you expect, and some of them drop emails completely rather than putting them into a spam folder (looking at you Microsoft).

Unlike PayPal we make it easy to verify our domains. https://monzomail.com

Re:How I lost control of our bank accounts to a phone scammer by PostOnce on Saturday April 04, 2020 @05:58AM (#22777323)
Oh my god the closure on that link. You couldn't write satire this good. Bureaucracy distilled.