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Re:Apple's MacOS Server has a 1.5/5 rating on the Mac App Store by _bxg1 on Friday April 03, 2020 @03:23PM (#22773083)
To be fair, their hardware standards have held up much better over the years than their software standards. Most recent hardware problems have been design choices, like the keyboards and ports shenanigans. The execution is still rock-solid.

In software, on the other hand, the latest macOS update introduced a bug in Notes where now if I hit the Tab key (entering an actual tab character), that whole line of text becomes invisible. Just invisible. I can highlight the text and see that it's still there, but without highlighting, it's invisible. It's very reproducible, this is not an obscure corner case. And this is at a time when Apple is attempting to ramp up its online services like Notes.

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Re:Apple's MacOS Server has a 1.5/5 rating on the Mac App Store by Wowfunhappy on Saturday April 04, 2020 @09:39AM (#22778146)
Where are you drawing the line between “design” and “execution”? I would consider building keyboards that fail after a year or so to be bad execution.
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Re:Apple's MacOS Server has a 1.5/5 rating on the Mac App Store by _bxg1 on Saturday April 04, 2020 @11:40AM (#22778865)
They didn't fail after a year or so, they failed when dust particles got in there because it was physically impossible to make that design not do that. They reworked it and reworked it but it just couldn't be done. Finally they admitted it was a mistake to require that level of thinness from a design standpoint.
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Re:Apple's MacOS Server has a 1.5/5 rating on the Mac App Store by Wowfunhappy on Saturday April 04, 2020 @11:57AM (#22779018)
I actually don't think the problems were due to dust, ever since I read this a year ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/bjtyaw/macbook_pro_k...

But putting that aside, I still see that as an execution flaw, or at least, it's a way in which design and execution are so intertwined that the distinction no longer makes sense. A computer with a non-replacable keyboard that breaks after a year is a badly-executed product. The way to execute it better would be a keyboard that doesn't break, whatever design decisions that entails.

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Re:Apple's MacOS Server has a 1.5/5 rating on the Mac App Store by _bxg1 on Saturday April 04, 2020 @08:17PM (#22782614)
The way I see it is those doing the executing were handed an impossible constraint. Immediately upon having that constraint loosened, the keyboards became pretty much perfect.
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Re:Apple's MacOS Server has a 1.5/5 rating on the Mac App Store by eganist on Monday April 06, 2020 @10:06AM (#22793790)
> Finally they admitted it was a mistake to require that level of thinness from a design standpoint.

So what you're saying is it was a design flaw from a design company.

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Re:Apple's MacOS Server has a 1.5/5 rating on the Mac App Store by chipotle_coyote on Friday April 03, 2020 @03:45PM (#22773278)
Hmm. I'd written that I couldn't reproduce this, but I think I am not on the most recent Catalina build! I will have to try again later.
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Re:Apple's MacOS Server has a 1.5/5 rating on the Mac App Store by _bxg1 on Friday April 03, 2020 @03:51PM (#22773327)
Okay, I just experimented a little further (I didn't bother the first time, just switched to a different text editor), and it's slightly narrower than I thought:

1) Enable dark mode

2) Open a new note

3) Tab twice, then type text which will be invisible

It appears to be any line with two or more tabs of indentation. Not two or more relative to the previous line, but two or more period.

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Re:Apple's MacOS Server has a 1.5/5 rating on the Mac App Store by sbuk on Friday April 03, 2020 @04:51PM (#22773838)
I cannot replicate this at all. I'm running the latest version on a freshly rebuilt Mac (MacBookPro15,2).
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Re:Apple's MacOS Server has a 1.5/5 rating on the Mac App Store by _bxg1 on Friday April 03, 2020 @05:19PM (#22774048)
Catalina 10.15.4?
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Re:Apple's MacOS Server has a 1.5/5 rating on the Mac App Store by jodaco on Friday April 03, 2020 @05:49PM (#22774270)
I cannot reproduce this on 10.15.3
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Re:Apple's MacOS Server has a 1.5/5 rating on the Mac App Store by _bxg1 on Friday April 03, 2020 @05:59PM (#22774358)
> the latest macOS update
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Re:Apple's MacOS Server has a 1.5/5 rating on the Mac App Store by sbuk on Saturday April 04, 2020 @06:40AM (#22777474)
Yes.
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Re:Apple's MacOS Server has a 1.5/5 rating on the Mac App Store by comex on Saturday April 04, 2020 @04:52AM (#22777061)
Did you file a bug report in Feedback Assistant?
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