Re:Show HN: Discreet dead man's switch for victims of domest...
by cassiet on Wednesday April 01, 2020 @09:33AM
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This isn’t mine, but the number of my users with js turned off isn’t worth the effort. You guys make a lot of noise, but not a lot of traffic.
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Re:Show HN: Discreet dead man's switch for victims of domest...
by nitrogen on Wednesday April 01, 2020 @10:22AM
(#22748767)
Your analytics are probably blocked by anyone who has JS off so your traffic numbers are skewed.
Re:Show HN: Discreet dead man's switch for victims of domest...
by cassiet on Wednesday April 01, 2020 @10:56AM
(#22749247)
They aren’t.
Re:Show HN: Discreet dead man's switch for victims of domest...
by nitrogen on Thursday April 02, 2020 @11:32AM
(#22760116)
How would you know?
Re:Show HN: Discreet dead man's switch for victims of domest...
by cassiet on Friday April 03, 2020 @09:59AM
(#22769184)
I own the hardware.
Re:Show HN: Discreet dead man's switch for victims of domest...
by mehdix on Wednesday April 01, 2020 @10:28AM
(#22748861)
This is not only about people who disable js, but also about people with disabilities who would benefit from accessibility features on your app. With this arguement, we should also ignore them, since they might not be the ones making the most traffic i.e. revenue for us.
There is also the increasing number of users who disable trackes out of privacy concerns. At lease most of the marketing guys I've seen still assume what trackers show is all there is.
Re:Show HN: Discreet dead man's switch for victims of domest...
by cassiet on Wednesday April 01, 2020 @10:55AM
(#22749239)
Accessibility isn’t being discussed here. All my sites are accessible, don’t conflate the two.
Re:Show HN: Discreet dead man's switch for victims of domest...
by c22 on Wednesday April 01, 2020 @11:57AM
(#22750054)
This sounds like a self-fulfilling prophecy. Who's going to generate a lot of traffic interacting with a blank page?
Re:Show HN: Discreet dead man's switch for victims of domest...
by alkonaut on Wednesday April 01, 2020 @09:58AM
(#22748499)
This. Without JS the base expectation should be a blank page. Not even an error message.
Re:Show HN: Discreet dead man's switch for victims of domest...
by catalogia on Wednesday April 01, 2020 @10:04AM
(#22748548)
That's a bizarrely vindictive attitude.
Re:Show HN: Discreet dead man's switch for victims of domest...
by alkonaut on Wednesday April 01, 2020 @01:20PM
(#22751160)
I’m not saying it should be that way on purpose, I’m saying that’s what you can expect. No one tests for people using terminal browsers or IE4. Noscript users are in the same niche. I understand why you’d disable JavaScript but I don’t understand how people expect those who make web apps to cater for that.
Re:Show HN: Discreet dead man's switch for victims of domest...
by catalogia on Wednesday April 01, 2020 @02:29PM
(#22752006)
"Expect" is a word that has different meanings depending on the context: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/expect
> To predict or believe that something will happen
In this sense, I do not expect most websites to work without javascript.
> To consider obligatory or required.
In this sense, I do expect most websites to work without javascript. At the very least, for accessibility reasons.
Re:Show HN: Discreet dead man's switch for victims of domest...
by cassiet on Wednesday April 01, 2020 @04:32PM
(#22753222)
You can expect all you want, I expect you’ll be disappointed. The goal to keep the web in that languid state is of the same ilk of the buggy whip. It’ll have archaic use cases, but the numbers won’t make sense for a lot of if not most future endeavours.
Re:Show HN: Discreet dead man's switch for victims of domest...
by catalogia on Thursday April 02, 2020 @04:50AM
(#22757245)
Opine all you like, it won't stop us from raising a stink about inaccessible websites.
Re:Show HN: Discreet dead man's switch for victims of domest...
by alkonaut on Thursday April 02, 2020 @05:43PM
(#22764201)
Inaccessible sites as in doesn’t work with screen readers and similar? You can make websites using js and still conform to accessibility standards (wcag etc). Just like you can make inaccessible websites without js.