Instant grocery delivery is a luxury. Customers can and should be asked to pay more for the service. Otherwise do it yourself. It is completely unsustainable to expect an hour's worth of labor for $5.

...an extra $5 and minimum 10% tip, not $5 per order.

> minimum 10% tip

default to 10% instead of 5%; it's a UX nudge. The user can always change it.

ok I read it as minimum 10%, not thinking the UI would let you change it lower.

I'm referring to what they make now. A shopper grosses under $5/trip without tips.

It says additional $5 per order. I don't know how many orders per hour is typical, but this could easily be $20-50/hour if the deliveries can be batched by location?

For the record, I'd be perfectly happy with the price of these delivery services increasing by $5 if it went to the gig worker fulfilling it. That's already a lot less than I tip food delivery drivers.

This. So much. People are behaving like it's an essential utility for the broader public, rather than a luxury for the (upper) middle-class. Usually sounds very similar with Uber and other low-paying services.

Sorry - can you clarify if the workers demanding PPE is the portion you're calling scummy? Or the modest hazard pay?

Er no. It is waiting for a pandemic, and then removing your labour to demand a significant wage hike (I have no idea how this will work out but it is clearly significantly beyond 20%+..."modest" is not an accurate description). There are likely vulnerable people who rely on this service to feed themselves, removing their food so you can make a quick buck is pretty scummy.

Again, how would you feel about Amazon hiking the price of hand sanitizer 50%?

It will be great to see this play out though. I live somewhere (unf) that had unions running govt for a period of decades. The US never really had this so is under the illusion that this kind of thing achieves it aims. It doesn't. What happens is most of these people don't have jobs anymore, you have to hike interest rates so most people lose their homes (and bye bye, VC funding...that will just stop overnight...I would guess the majority of the people on here will lose their jobs, and modify their opinions too late), and the price of food starts increasing daily.

And btw, this should be obvious but apparently isn't, this is going to go on for at least a year. At some point, people are going to have to learn how to go about their daily life without infecting other people. The alternative is: most of these jobs stop existing, and the economy shrinks significantly (10%+). Lockdown and people deciding they need "hazard pay" to do their normal job isn't a permanent solution (central banks will be watching this closely and will be ready to hike rates as soon as it starts).

They're demanding a wage hike because they're literally being exposed to the virus…

Yes, everyone will be exposed to the virus.

As I specifically mentioned: this is going to last for a year (probably more). Everyone is going to have to learn how to continue doing their job with that.

There is no other option: the govt doesn't have enough money, business doesn't have enough money, consumers don't have enough money...everyone is going to have to do their job with this happening.

> Yes, everyone will be exposed to the virus.

Not equally. You can't possibly be saying that someone who is able to completely self-isolate by working at home is in the same position as the person who is out grabbing groceries?

I am sure it must be a great luxury to have the choice of being able to "completely self-isolate"...but that is not going to cover the majority of the population and even those who do are not going to be able to do that for a year. It just isn't rational.

As a result of our enjoyment of this luxury I think it's perfectly rationale that the market responds by increasing compensation for these jobs that don't have that luxury and maybe correct the insane wage disparity between folks that need to continue doing manual labour and all of those that can work through our computers alone.

As a bonus, we might just start addressing the extreme and ridiculous levels of wealth inequality we have in society today through that process.