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Re:Twitter removes two Bolsonaro tweets questioning virus qu... by Traster on Monday March 30, 2020 @06:21AM (#22726672)
Is it not a little bit patronising that American companies think they can regulate political speech in Brazil? It's quite clear they don't think they can regulate political speech in the US. What exactly is the difference?
Re:Twitter removes two Bolsonaro tweets questioning virus qu... by truculent on Monday March 30, 2020 @06:26AM (#22726696)
If you're shocked by this, just wait until you find out what the US government has been up to in Central and South America over the past 50 years
Re:Twitter removes two Bolsonaro tweets questioning virus qu... by Traster on Monday March 30, 2020 @06:32AM (#22726740)
I think there's a vast difference between the US government doing something, and private companies doing something like this. I'm not saying the US is right in its interventions, but atleast they're a democratically elected government with some form of legitimacy.
Re:Twitter removes two Bolsonaro tweets questioning virus qu... by rbanffy on Monday March 30, 2020 @06:44AM (#22726811)
The difference is that we should be able to expect a government to act under higher ethical standards than a for-profit company.
Re:Twitter removes two Bolsonaro tweets questioning virus qu... by gus_massa on Monday March 30, 2020 @06:50AM (#22726850)
Again: If you're shocked by this, just wait until you find out what the US government has been up to in Central and South America over the past 50 years
Re:Twitter removes two Bolsonaro tweets questioning virus qu... by rbanffy on Monday March 30, 2020 @06:55AM (#22726885)
I grew up in Brazil. I know what the US has been doing for ages. It's just that, in a more civilized world, I would expect governments to hold themselves to a high ethical standard.

If the US did that, they could be a force for good. Unfortunately, that's not the case.

Re:Twitter removes two Bolsonaro tweets questioning virus qu... by hrktb on Monday March 30, 2020 @06:38AM (#22726776)
I think the parent is talking about the US sabotaging other governments for decades.
Re:Twitter removes two Bolsonaro tweets questioning virus qu... by m4r35n357 on Monday March 30, 2020 @06:37AM (#22726773)
I think that line has been blurred out of existence.
Re:Twitter removes two Bolsonaro tweets questioning virus qu... by Joeri on Monday March 30, 2020 @06:39AM (#22726784)
They are not regulating speech in brazil, they are regulating speech on their platform. Bolsonaro can still say whatever he wants in brazil, he just can’t do it on twitter.
Re:Twitter removes two Bolsonaro tweets questioning virus qu... by lodovic on Monday March 30, 2020 @07:26AM (#22727067)
Many people look on Twitter first. Brazil could therefore argue Twitter is interfering with government communication in a time of national emergency. That carries a very high penalty in many countries. Besides, this is like the phone company refusing you service because you swore on a call.
Re:Twitter removes two Bolsonaro tweets questioning virus qu... by juusto on Monday March 30, 2020 @07:09AM (#22726959)
I guess the question is: why don't they censor Trump / Pelosi / etc for example?
Re:Twitter removes two Bolsonaro tweets questioning virus qu... by rumanator on Monday March 30, 2020 @07:19AM (#22727024)
> I guess the question is: why don't they censor Trump / Pelosi / etc for example?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

Re:Twitter removes two Bolsonaro tweets questioning virus qu... by disgruntledphd2 on Monday March 30, 2020 @08:04AM (#22727311)
This is a fair question.

Once upon a time, I was aware of a similar problem on another social network.

The trouble was, a senior elected official in the US was violating the terms and conditions of the site.

The solution: create an exemption for them.

Let's be honest, doing this in Brazil is pretty low-risk for Twitter, doing it in the US could be existential.

Re:Twitter removes two Bolsonaro tweets questioning virus qu... by thu2111 on Monday March 30, 2020 @10:24AM (#22728244)
That's a bad answer. Double standards are a problem and deserve to be called out. Twitter punches when it thinks someone can't punch back.
Re:Twitter removes two Bolsonaro tweets questioning virus qu... by juusto on Monday March 30, 2020 @08:00AM (#22727285)
Can't it get more whataboutists than just using a link on whataboutism?

I am not trying to be argumentative here but the question stands, treating one and another politician with a different set of parameters is a bit weird.

BTW, I disagree with both of them. I am not trying to defend one or another.

Re:Twitter removes two Bolsonaro tweets questioning virus qu... by rumanator on Monday March 30, 2020 @07:13AM (#22726977)
> Is it not a little bit patronising that American companies think they can regulate political speech in Brazil?

I'm sure the President of Brazil can manage to find a way to convey his message other than Twitter. Thus it's not like Bolsonaro was placed under a gag order.

If you want to use a third-party service then you comply with the end user agreement presented by the third party. If you don't agree then that's ok, just get one that you're ok with.

Re:Twitter removes two Bolsonaro tweets questioning virus qu... by _-___________-_ on Monday March 30, 2020 @07:18AM (#22727010)
You could make this argument about virtually any censorship.
Re:Twitter removes two Bolsonaro tweets questioning virus qu... by rumanator on Monday March 30, 2020 @07:22AM (#22727042)
Censorship is not even remotely comparable to abusing a third-party service to post content that violates it's end user agreement.

You don't agree with the rules? That's ok, just use a service you're ok with.

Do you honestly believe that the President of Brazil lacks the means to brief the citizens of Brazil of his political views and opinions?

Re:Twitter removes two Bolsonaro tweets questioning virus qu... by hrktb on Monday March 30, 2020 @06:30AM (#22726722)
We could try the glass half full angle: perhaps it's a baby step towards doing something about life threatening tweets in the US.
Re:Twitter removes two Bolsonaro tweets questioning virus qu... by randomanon on Monday March 30, 2020 @06:35AM (#22726756)
> "It's quite clear they don't think they can regulate political speech in the US."

Think again, they DO censor political speech in the US, specifically one side's political speech. This is especially clear for Twitter but also present on many other social media channels.

Re:Twitter removes two Bolsonaro tweets questioning virus qu... by rbanffy on Monday March 30, 2020 @06:45AM (#22726815)
That's not censorship. That's protecting the public good.