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Re:The U.S. tried to build a new fleet of ventilators by joe_the_user on Sunday March 29, 2020 @04:52PM (#22722615)
It seems like you've outlined a situation that could well be true. The US indeed has a training process that only generates useful competence with a full 8-12 year apprenticeship of hazing and theory.

Of course, it flies in the face of a common sense view that someone careful, able to follow orders, just hold things or press button etc would provide some use in a world where the doctors are fundamentally limited.

It seems like a world where the medical industry has piled goldstandard-or-nothing upon goldstandard-or-nothing approaches, to the point yeah, doctors really don't know how to produce useful people without those fricken' eight years or twelve years. Well friend, you should start thinking "outside the box" about how to make other people useful or many, many people will dies.

FYI: The US produces field medic with 16 week training period after basic training. That might who you want attending to you but things are going to be resembling a war zone really soon.

Re:The U.S. tried to build a new fleet of ventilators by cycrutchfield on Sunday March 29, 2020 @05:06PM (#22722737)
Imagine thinking that the role of a medical professional in the ICU is to just sit around and “press buttons”.
Re:The U.S. tried to build a new fleet of ventilators by joe_the_user on Sunday March 29, 2020 @05:14PM (#22722805)
In a huge medical emergency, when people essentially desperately pleading for a ramp-up of the effectiveness of medical personnel, it's kind of mind-boggling that the only answer you're giving is sneering at how little the layman knows (and yeah, that seems like a standard answer doctor in the US are going give).

And, yeah, maybe I know little of what exactly ICU processes are but it seems indeed implausible that there are no intermediate levels of skills that are the slightest bit helpful, just about physical task can aided by a "third hand" etc.

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Re:The U.S. tried to build a new fleet of ventilators by cycrutchfield on Monday March 30, 2020 @03:30AM (#22725932)
> Of course, it flies in the face of a common sense view that someone careful, able to follow orders, just hold things or press button etc would provide some use in a world where the doctors are fundamentally limited.