Re:600 Covid-19 cases, 0 deaths with hydroxychloroquine, azi...
by mrbrianhinton on Sunday March 29, 2020 @04:25PM
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What are you basing these claims on? The only definitive research on these drugs for treatment: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S209580992... does not point to a large success. In fact many of the trial patients ended up in ICU, and their condition worsened. A single doctor who advertised that he had 600 patients, which only a few were tested and verified to have COVID-19 is not enough to data to base starting broad treatment. If they do work then by all means lets start medicating, but sadly nothing points to these drugs being that effective.
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Re:600 Covid-19 cases, 0 deaths with hydroxychloroquine, azi...
by giardini on Sunday March 29, 2020 @04:48PM
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mrbrianhinton says >" A single doctor who advertised that he had 600 patients, which only a few were tested and verified to have COVID-19 is not enough to data to base starting broad treatment."<
Zelenko wrote (above) that he had:
"669 PATIENTS SEEN IN MY MONROE, NY practice with either test proven or clinically diagnosed corona infection"
That "test proven" part is easy to miss.
Zelenko's study is not a randomized controlled double-blind study but, at 699 patients so far, it is definitely statistically significant.
It will be months, if not years, and quite possibly never before a controlled experiment occurs. Such an experiment could be deemed medically unethical because it withheld a highly-successful treatment from the control group:
"More than one way to measure":
Re:600 Covid-19 cases, 0 deaths with hydroxychloroquine, azi...
by mrbrianhinton on Sunday March 29, 2020 @09:15PM
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Yes. "test proven or clinically diagnosed corona infection". Clinically diagnosed means that they had symptoms that COULD be COVID-19. But unless they are tested it's not definitive evidence of anything, and further puts into question the treatment. Many of the symptoms are just like the common flu. I understand people jumping, and hoping that this is some cure. Likely if anything it helps treat the secondary illnesses caused by COVID-19, and perhaps helps improve recovery in that way.