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Re:The U.S. tried to build a new fleet of ventilators
by cycrutchfield on Monday March 30, 2020 @03:35AM
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Reminds me of some of the horror stories from the peak of the outbreak in Wuhan. Doctors and nurses treating patients without any PPE because, well, there wasn’t any left, and they had all tested positive anyway.
I don’t know what the fatality rates were for those healthcare workers at those facilities, but it would be good to know for future reference.
Re:The U.S. tried to build a new fleet of ventilators
by ThrowawayR2 on Sunday March 29, 2020 @11:42PM
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Patients are continuing to emit more viruses as they breathe and cough. Put enough viral load into the health care worker and they'll be in just as bad shape as the patient regardless of how naturally resistant they are.
Re:The U.S. tried to build a new fleet of ventilators
by bilbo0s on Sunday March 29, 2020 @11:25PM
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There's talk along those lines. Not sure what they've settled on? Keep in mind, they don't really know how crowded these facilities are gonna get. Space may be at a premium. But yeah, at the same time going home is not always the best idea.
Re:The U.S. tried to build a new fleet of ventilators
by mistermann on Monday March 30, 2020 @06:48AM
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> The original idea of 30 days training is an end of the world worst case scenario.
The person was asking a question, not proposing a plan of only training people for thirty days.
This thread is a like a giant version of that telephone game that we used to play in school, except in that game you didn't have the advantage of reading the exact words that the person said, as we can in this thread.
Re:The U.S. tried to build a new fleet of ventilators
by romanows on Monday March 30, 2020 @10:02AM
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Thanks for your comments in this thread. Some people seem to have an axe to grind concerning the hubris of software hackers and are pushing that debate rather than addressing the question.
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Re:The U.S. tried to build a new fleet of ventilators
by mistermann on Monday March 30, 2020 @08:29PM
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Hmmm, it seems like the idea that we have too much fighting is not very popular. Maybe I have it completely backwards, maybe we need more fighting.
But my SO runs, (COO), a system of hospitals. Including some teaching hospitals. And part of their plan definitely includes sequestering final year med students and all residents at their respective homes. Apparently the idea is that as hospital staff go down, this pool of residents and med students can be drawn on.
I know she stays up nights worried sick that residents might go to a party, or invite their boyfriend over, or engage in some other risky behavior instead of stay home alone and safeguard their health. So I get the idea that they really don't have a backup to that plan. I suspect med students and residents are a pretty critical part of the plan for surge operations across the nation.
Just pointing that out because I think hospital administrators and medical directors are starting to plan on doing things they wouldn't normally do. Like pressing 4th year med students into service, or taking 68 year old women off of ventilators if a 33 year old woman presents with a need for it. It's not so much a question of what doctors want to do, as it is a question of doing what has to be done to get through this with the maximum number of recoveries.