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Re:Kitty 0.17 – GPU-accelerated terminal emulator by jstimpfle on Wednesday March 25, 2020 @07:43AM (#22683657)
Not just terminals. So much software is unbearably slow today. Definitely terminals. The only terminal I can really stand is xterm with bitmap fonts.

https://danluu.com/term-latency/

> A graphical terminal emulator should use underlying graphical environment features/libraries for things like hardware-assisted rendering.

I've mostly done OpenGL recently, and I think xterm (which is fast) is an exception in that it uses just X11 primitives, but I also know that some font frawing APIs are very slow. GDI is what I have in mind mostly. So using Hardware more directly (i.e. OpenGL) might be not the worst idea.

Re:Kitty 0.17 – GPU-accelerated terminal emulator by mgaffney on Thursday March 26, 2020 @02:26PM (#22696374)
> https://danluu.com/term-latency/ This was written in 2017. It's got great information but I'm guessing most, if not all, of the terminals tested have newer versions. Just think of what 3 years of feature bloat could have done to their performance.
Re:Kitty 0.17 – GPU-accelerated terminal emulator by einpoklum on Wednesday March 25, 2020 @08:12AM (#22683806)
Wow, those graphs are mind-blowing!

But it sounds like what should really be written is a fast, hardware-backed, low-latency but limited-feature graphics library.

Then have your terminal use that. I still say that direct awareness of the hardware is _way_ too much coupling.

Re:Kitty 0.17 – GPU-accelerated terminal emulator by jstimpfle on Wednesday March 25, 2020 @05:20PM (#22688630)
OpenGL is actually pretty high-level. I don't know how much detail of the hardware it lets you get - probably mostly through hardware-specific extensions. The most basic usage is really hardware oblivious. There are many even more high-level toolkits on top of that, such as Qt. But if you need some flexibility and performance, using OpenGL is probably your best bet.
Re:Kitty 0.17 – GPU-accelerated terminal emulator by camgunz on Wednesday March 25, 2020 @09:21PM (#22690054)
Yeah, plus hardware accelerated font rendering isn't trivial.