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Re:Fed “digital dollars” are part of debate over coronavirus... by toomuchtodo on Tuesday March 24, 2020 @10:05PM (#22681338)
I have always been a huge fan of the idea of the Fed providing deposit accounts directly to citizens, at no cost. Banking should be a utility, not a for profit business (you can carve off lending and investments to for profit entities that do this, separate form traditional banks), and you suddenly make the unbanked the banked (and nuke alternative finance providers that charge for services that should be free, check cashing and the like; "its expensive to be poor").

Your credit card data is already sold [1]. Your banking data is already sold [2]. Read the privacy notices you receive from your banks and credit cards to see when and to whom (these notices are required by law). Any transaction over $10k generates a CTR [3]. Any transactions that appear to be structuring are going to generate a SAR [4].

The solution, as always, is regulation, governance, and oversight, not outright turning down the idea. At the same time, the ability to turn your fiat into physical currency must always be preserved for privacy reasons; require the Fed issue debit cards and all ATMs accept them for dispensing hard currency.

[1] https://www.aclu.org/blog/privacy-technology/consumer-privac...

[2] https://www.courthousenews.com/banks-profit-from-selling-you...

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Currency_transaction_report

[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspicious_activity_report

Re:Fed “digital dollars” are part of debate over coronavirus... by core-questions on Tuesday March 24, 2020 @10:30PM (#22681472)
> Banking should be a utility, not a for profit business

100% agree. Just consider the overhead of the massive government policy infrastructure required to adequately support all of the banks which exist purely to turn a profit off of people through oftentimes usurious methods. There's no reason the federal government can't simply provide a bank run not-for-profit.

However, the Fed is not the federal government, it is a private corporation; so this is not the correct entity. Instead, the national bank you're suggesting would necessarily have replace the Fed with a fully transparent public institution.

You'll find that most times in history when a Western country tries to do this, the moneyed elites do not enjoy it.

Re:Fed “digital dollars” are part of debate over coronavirus... by toomuchtodo on Tuesday March 24, 2020 @10:34PM (#22681492)
I agree with most of what you're saying, but think the Fed is the ideal route for such a role if we presume that at some point in the future, they will acquire an outsized amount of financial assets similar to what central banks in other developed countries facing stagflation have done (Bank of Japan); it then becomes trivial to issue a citizen's dividend from those assets to citizen accounts. I'd settle for a national government-operated bank if I had to.

See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22594458 for logistics.

Re:Fed “digital dollars” are part of debate over coronavirus... by chrisco255 on Tuesday March 24, 2020 @10:23PM (#22681438)
The Fed was never designed to be a retail bank. And so you know, the Fed is a for-profit business.
Re:Fed “digital dollars” are part of debate over coronavirus... by core-questions on Tuesday March 24, 2020 @10:33PM (#22681484)
Replace the Fed with a public entity that provides this service.
Re:Fed “digital dollars” are part of debate over coronavirus... by chrisco255 on Tuesday March 24, 2020 @10:39PM (#22681520)
There's a reason the Fed is disjointed from the normal branches of government and does not answer to Congress or the President directly. You need that separation to keep the system from corrupting itself. If it were up to Congress, they'd print $100 trillion a year and spend until the system collapsed on itself. Some would argue we've already gotten to that point and we just have yet to see it play out in the economy. That may be true. There's a lot of very real systemic risk in the market right now. Financial mismanagement has destroyed many empires. America's system is vulnerable. Retail banking should be the last of the Fed's concerns at this time. It doesn't cost much, if anything, to open a checking account in the U.S. A lot of the unbanked either have illegal status and are keeping their funds off the books for good reason, or they choose to use cash for privacy reasons, which is totally valid.

If you want a non-profit bank, that's what credit unions are for. They've been around for decades.

Re:Fed “digital dollars” are part of debate over coronavirus... by riskneutral on Wednesday March 25, 2020 @02:27AM (#22682421)
> to keep the system from corrupting itself

Yes but the system always finds a way of corrupting itself.

Re:Fed “digital dollars” are part of debate over coronavirus... by toomuchtodo on Tuesday March 24, 2020 @10:25PM (#22681448)
Change is inevitable. How many governments were designed to support providing healthcare to their citizens but do so today? (Over 30)