Re:Bashible: An Ansible-inspired deployment/automation tool ...
by unixhero on Tuesday March 24, 2020 @02:12AM
(#22672438)
Why POSIX sh? Bash is everywhere. I once in my career had access to and needed jobs performed on a mainframe with AIX running. It had bash, it had ruby, it had day, it had fish shell. I couldn't and can't understand why people insist on asceticism (Korn shell, POSIX sh) when nicer options are available.
Re:Bashible: An Ansible-inspired deployment/automation tool ...
by kohtatsu on Tuesday March 24, 2020 @03:38AM
(#22672847)
Eh, I simply don't need bash.
Every few dozen scripts or so I'll change the shebang to bash to have more than 1 array, but other than that I seldom pine anything that it has to offer. I believe it's a bloated mess along with most GNU utils, so avoiding it is partially out of spite, but I wouldn't impair my code to do so.
Re:Bashible: An Ansible-inspired deployment/automation tool ...
by unixhero on Wednesday March 25, 2020 @02:11AM
(#22682361)
*zsh ... Not "day"
Re:Bashible: An Ansible-inspired deployment/automation tool ...
by m4r35n357 on Tuesday March 24, 2020 @07:03AM
(#22673791)
dash is 10% of the size of bash. You don't need the interactive features when running shell scripts, and the few "extra" features are pretty crap anyway (arrays? yeah right).
Re:Bashible: An Ansible-inspired deployment/automation tool ...
by BiteCode_dev on Tuesday March 24, 2020 @04:08AM
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"Thirteen Incorrect Ways and Two Awkward Ways to Use Arrays"
Re:Bashible: An Ansible-inspired deployment/automation tool ...
by kohtatsu on Tuesday March 24, 2020 @05:33AM
(#22673290)
Yeah I should clarify; I think it's well past the time of sh.
Still, sh is unrivaled for portability and brevity/velocity; I wouldn't swap virtually any the shell scripts I've written for python scripts. I think sh is a decent and often well-suited tool if you can manage to wield it properly (not a straightforward endeavor).
I look forward to checking out oilshell though, so thank you~
Edit: FWIW for arrays in POSIX sh I generally only use:
set -- a b c
echo $#
echo "$1"
shift
echo "$@"
Once in a blue moon "$*" or maybe an unquoted $@. See 2.5.2 of https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/utilities/V... (My go-to reference)
Writing decent code in bash is just as possible as any other language.
I stick to POSIX sh but same difference.