Man dies after self-medicating with chloroquine

Re:Man dies after self-medicating with chloroquine by AmericanChopper on Monday March 23, 2020 @07:03PM (#22669783)

Trump didn’t come up with or popularize the idea for this treatment. All he’s done is instruct the FDA to trial it, and stated exactly when a doctor can prescribe it. This is nothing more than any of the other doctors or health officials who think the treatment has potential have done. There is no possible way that any of his comments could be construed as advice to illegally acquire and self-medicate with a drug you know nothing about. All of his comments have been about have been about having the drug properly approved for use by qualified doctors. Which given the circumstances seems like exactly the sort of response you would want from the executive.

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Re:Man dies after self-medicating with chloroquine by anigbrowl on Monday March 23, 2020 @07:35PM (#22670085)

Now now, there are multiple quotations on this thread showing that not to be true.

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Re:Man dies after self-medicating with chloroquine by AmericanChopper on Monday March 23, 2020 @09:19PM (#22670815)

There is not a single one showing this not to be true, trump has:

* Instructed the FDA to perform a clinical trial

* Said the FDA has approved it for treatment of Coronavirus in “compassionate use” circumstances

* Said he thinks it will be effective

* Said he can’t be sure how it will turn out

All of his quotes on the topic can be put into one of those categories. The first two are simply statements of fact, the second two are statements of opinion (and presented as such), opinions that are shared by many doctors and medical officials (including the ones who initially suggested and popularized this idea).

Trump has made absolutely no statements at all saying:

* This will certainly work out

* It’s a good idea to self medicate

So, if there’s so many quotes proving you to be correct, I’m sure you could provide one. Instead of just making an unfounded and unsubstantiated claim that you’re correct.

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Re:Man dies after self-medicating with chloroquine by anigbrowl on Tuesday March 24, 2020 @01:49AM (#22672344)

Trump has made absolutely no statements at all saying:

This will certainly work out*

"But the nice part is, it’s been around for a long time, so we know that if it — if things don’t go as planned, it’s not going to kill anybody."

Full quote in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22669656

Look, I know you want to nuance your way out of this, but it's not gonna fly because remarks like the above are taken at face value by foolish people and that's something that public figures have a responsibility to take into account. As I keep pointing out, that's why pharma ads have to have so many warnings in them. You think they wouldn't rather just say 'try this, it'll cure what ails ya!' But bitter experience has shown that people need to reminded about side effects and safe dosage and listening to their doctor over and over and over again.

In case you follow up on this thread, please listen to this - an interview with the woman whose husband died, describing how they came to try the medication: https://twitter.com/VaughnHillyard/status/124225399700566425...

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