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Re:Nature versus Nurture? Add ‘Noise’ to the Debate by thaumasiotes on Monday March 23, 2020 @02:48PM (#22667272)
> Noise clearly falls into broad penumbra of "environment", which also includes many other random factors.

Why? Noise is an unpredictable development. There's no reason to expect it to be exogenous; it's very easy for the genotype to specify that an outcome should be more or less unpredictable.

Re:Nature versus Nurture? Add ‘Noise’ to the Debate by patrec on Monday March 23, 2020 @07:29PM (#22670037)
Since what you wrote is true (you could have a gene where one allele increases observed phenotypic variance and another decreases it; in fact I'm pretty sure such genes exists), I suspect the people downvoted you did so because they'd rather not think clearly about these matters.
Re:Nature versus Nurture? Add ‘Noise’ to the Debate by thaumasiotes on Tuesday March 24, 2020 @07:51AM (#22674065)
It's not quite at the level of a single allele, but e.g. I understand that the same mutation related to eye-color results in a lot more color variance in females than it does in males.
Re:Nature versus Nurture? Add ‘Noise’ to the Debate by patrec on Tuesday March 24, 2020 @08:51AM (#22674399)
And male vs female variance in general would appear to be strong evidence that something is going on.