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Re:Launch HN: Taiv (YC W20) – Replace TV commercials with co... by npalansky on Monday March 23, 2020 @02:40PM (#22667193)
Totally understand where you're coming from, we the same concern at the beginning. We read through a bunch of TOSs and found that some prohibit the bars from modifying the stream, but they're allowed to change the channel / input whenever they want. We specifically designed our hardware to comply with this by changing the input on the TV instead of modifying the cable stream.
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Re:Launch HN: Taiv (YC W20) – Replace TV commercials with co... by AdamJacobMuller on Monday March 23, 2020 @03:12PM (#22667595)
This was my initial thought as well and this is a very clever way of splitting the baby. I hope you don't get sued out of existence.
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Re:Launch HN: Taiv (YC W20) – Replace TV commercials with co... by goodside on Monday March 23, 2020 @03:19PM (#22667666)
What prevents the TOS from changing to prohibit any automated attempt to circumvent the display of ads? The providers would have a huge incentive to do this if you become successful.
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Re:Launch HN: Taiv (YC W20) – Replace TV commercials with co... by mNovak on Monday March 23, 2020 @03:44PM (#22667938)
Somehow TiVo made it all these years on the premise of dodging ads. Not 1:1, but it gives hope.
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Re:Launch HN: Taiv (YC W20) – Replace TV commercials with co... by mortenjorck on Monday March 23, 2020 @03:53PM (#22668028)
I'd consider this inevitable, but that just makes it a race to strike a revenue-sharing (and integration) deal with the providers.
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Re:Launch HN: Taiv (YC W20) – Replace TV commercials with co... by quickthrower2 on Monday March 23, 2020 @03:44PM (#22667942)
Thats a loophole. I’ll bet that’ll get closed if this is successful. I think you’d need to work with tv providers not against them.
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Re:Launch HN: Taiv (YC W20) – Replace TV commercials with co... by babypuncher on Monday March 23, 2020 @04:11PM (#22668218)
It may be a loophole, but I have a hard time seeing how it could be closed. Telling users they can't change the channel or turn off their TV when an ad is playing will never fly.
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Re:Launch HN: Taiv (YC W20) – Replace TV commercials with co... by wrkronmiller on Monday March 23, 2020 @08:01PM (#22670302)
IANAL but I imagine they could throw in words like “automated” to work around that, assuming anyone reads the TOS and cares to begin with
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Re:Launch HN: Taiv (YC W20) – Replace TV commercials with co... by quickthrower2 on Tuesday March 24, 2020 @01:35AM (#22672268)
It depends who has the most power and BATNA. The sports network or the bar owner?

Home viewers are a different thing.

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