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Re:IPhone 4 films final Discovery launch from 30,000 feet up. by aarontait on Saturday February 26, 2011 @01:57PM (#2266217)
Or that fossil fuels are incredible...
Re:IPhone 4 films final Discovery launch from 30,000 feet up. by jonknee on Saturday February 26, 2011 @02:27PM (#2266292)
Discovery doesn't use fossil fules. The main engines are powered by oxygen and hydrogen and the solid rocket boosters are made up of ammonium perchlorate, aluminum and iron oxide.
Re:IPhone 4 films final Discovery launch from 30,000 feet up. by aarontait on Saturday February 26, 2011 @02:40PM (#2266322)
Hydrogen is a storage medium. Fossil fuels are used as the energy source to make the rocket propellant.

I can also guarantee you that fossil fuels were used in the production and distribution of the rocket boosters and that the airplane the video was taken from wouldn't be flying if it didn't have any jet fuel in it's tank.

Humans are smart creatures, but we shouldn't kid ourselves into thinking we would be where we are at now if it weren't for a cheap, albeit limited, supply of highly concentrated energy.

Re:IPhone 4 films final Discovery launch from 30,000 feet up. by kirubakaran on Saturday February 26, 2011 @02:45PM (#2266327)
By that logic, fossil fuel is a storage medium too. Solar energy was used as the energy source to make fossil fuel.
Re:IPhone 4 films final Discovery launch from 30,000 feet up. by aarontait on Saturday February 26, 2011 @03:01PM (#2266364)
True, with the difference being humans (and our predecessors) had to wait hundreds of thousands of years for the fossil fuels to form under the immense pressure (and additional energy input) of the earth.
Re:IPhone 4 films final Discovery launch from 30,000 feet up. by dtby on Sunday February 27, 2011 @05:35AM (#2267630)
And you believe that the value of this observation is what, exactly?

That we are wasting energy which has been stored and untapped for hundreds of thousands of years? Do we really expect that our ancestors will be better able to exploit this value than we are... without our given expliotation? Will this be true forever? Should we just let that stored energy remain forever?

Ceteris parabis, we will extract exactly as much value from our ancestors as makes sense. And our ancestors will do exactly the same. I do not begrudge them that any mire than I begrudge us this current state of affairs.

Re:IPhone 4 films final Discovery launch from 30,000 feet up. by fourspace on Saturday February 26, 2011 @04:31PM (#2266574)
Fossil fuels are only incredible because humans figured out how to use them. They have no inherent value apart from our minds.