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Re:ARM-Ed Mac: We Have an Answer by giancarlostoro on Sunday March 22, 2020 @06:18PM (#22659259)
I am not convinced although I will admit this is the first iPad I am considering buying in a long time.

Unless an iPad can compile code at speeds equivalent of C / C++ I cannot see it happening. I could see some programming on the new iPad though. Would be nice if Apple opened it up for trivial scripting though.

Re:ARM-Ed Mac: We Have an Answer by scarface74 on Sunday March 22, 2020 @06:46PM (#22659482)
In the grand scheme of things, do you realize how niche software development is?

Besides that, why do you think that the current ARM chips aren't already faster than most x86 chips that people use?

Would be nice if Apple opened it up for trivial scripting though.

You can already do that using Shortcuts and various third party apps..

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/scriptable/id1405459188

Re:ARM-Ed Mac: We Have an Answer by ken on Sunday March 22, 2020 @07:20PM (#22659740)
> In the grand scheme of things, do you realize how niche software development is?

During the Mac Pro redesign, Apple said developers are by far their largest group of "pro" users. Then they built a $6000+ workstation (with a $6000+ display) that appears to be primarily aimed at video editors. I don't see why adding some real programmability to iOS would be too niche.

I think the more likely answer is that Apple is suffering from tunnel vision in their conception of what "software development" means.

Re:ARM-Ed Mac: We Have an Answer by scarface74 on Sunday March 22, 2020 @07:26PM (#22659782)
There largest group of “pro users” but not their largest group of users. But realistically, does anything about the Mac Pro seemed like it was designed for development?
Re:ARM-Ed Mac: We Have an Answer by ken on Sunday March 22, 2020 @09:09PM (#22660368)
As a primary purpose? Hard to be certain, but I'd say no. The base configuration is in some ways ridiculously overpowered for the typical developer, while missing some easy wins.

It looks like a great machine for developing software (if you can afford it) but all of its strengths as a development machine look like simply side effects of video editing machines needing lots of power. There is no design or feature on it that I can point to and say "this was done for developers". There are many that were obviously done for video -- like a $2000 FPGA option that's only good for 2 intermediate video codecs.

Re:ARM-Ed Mac: We Have an Answer by chipotle_coyote on Monday March 23, 2020 @12:37AM (#22661307)
I have no inside information here, but I suspect that Apple sees the MacBook Pro as the Mac aimed at developers, not the Mac Pro. MBPs are more common in Silicon Valley than roadside poppies. So while the Mac Pro was the first stop on their Hardware Apology Tour,† the 16" MBP is the "please stay with us, developers" machine: fixing the keyboard, increasing the performance substantially, and not raising the price.

†Not that they'll actually ever say "I'm sorry" out loud, but it's pretty clear they're rolling back some of the late stage Ive-isms. Yes, I know they kept the Touch Bar and didn't add ports, but I think they're all fully committed to USB-C as the Way Of The Future™ and, uh, somebody high up loves that damn Touch Bar.

Re:ARM-Ed Mac: We Have an Answer by nicoburns on Sunday March 22, 2020 @07:18PM (#22659724)
Niche perhaps, but crucial to the success of the hardware. Nobody would buy ipads if there wasn't software for them.
Re:ARM-Ed Mac: We Have an Answer by giancarlostoro on Monday March 23, 2020 @07:15AM (#22662888)
If the argument is that the iPad will replace a Mac then you cant just do that and provide a mediocre development experience. You will need C / C++ and other languages to use third party libraries for apps.

Without a reasonably performant platform to develop on the iPad will kill itself.

Re:ARM-Ed Mac: We Have an Answer by scarface74 on Monday March 23, 2020 @10:42AM (#22664540)
You act as this is a heavy lift.
Re:ARM-Ed Mac: We Have an Answer by giancarlostoro on Monday March 23, 2020 @07:36PM (#22670096)
I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm just saying it's required for the health of an iPadOS only future.
Re:ARM-Ed Mac: We Have an Answer by saagarjha on Sunday March 22, 2020 @06:29PM (#22659356)
> Unless an iPad can compile code at speeds equivalent of C / C++ I cannot see it happening.

Have you used Swift Playgrounds?

Re:ARM-Ed Mac: We Have an Answer by _ph_ on Monday March 23, 2020 @08:01AM (#22663159)
Does Swift Playgrounds allow general App development? No one doubts that you could do software development on an iPad Pro, just that Apple so far has disallowed any real software development on that platform.
Re:ARM-Ed Mac: We Have an Answer by ex3ndr on Sunday March 22, 2020 @06:35PM (#22659402)
I bet i can do it faster.