Re:Traffic and Pollution Plummet as U.S. Cities Shut Down
by throwaway894345 on Sunday March 22, 2020 @03:17PM
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If class warfare is weak, then it probably just annoys the upper class and makes them less likely to cooperate. If you have some violent “glorious revolution” in mind, then you very probably wreck the economy and damn a huge portion of the lower class to extreme poverty, including the deaths of tens of millions and you also probably create a new, even narrower, more corrupt class of oligarchs with even more control over policy and the “means of production”.
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Re:Traffic and Pollution Plummet as U.S. Cities Shut Down
by toomuchtodo on Sunday March 22, 2020 @03:18PM
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That makes it sound like all outcomes are similar, whether through apathy of doing nothing or through violent revolution, no? We’re not quite at rock bottom but it appears in sight, regarding climate change. The economy is a bit in a wreck already as well.
Re:Traffic and Pollution Plummet as U.S. Cities Shut Down
by throwaway894345 on Sunday March 22, 2020 @06:57PM
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All outcomes aren’t similar, they are proportionately worse the more violent “class warfare” becomes. The best path forward is almost certainly (in my view) incremental cooperative progress towards a stronger social safety net. Nothing good is going to happen over night.
Re:Traffic and Pollution Plummet as U.S. Cities Shut Down
by toomuchtodo on Sunday March 22, 2020 @07:03PM
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I would agree with that analysis, but there is a minimum amount of progress we need to pull the curve away from catastrophic failure. The longer we wait, the more extreme the solution will need to be to pull on the curve, in my opinion. We shouldn’t let the current crisis go to waste.
Very similar to mitigating an asteroid impact. If you wait too long, no amount of force and course correction will save us.