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Re:Quarantine Bread by gumby on Saturday March 21, 2020 @03:56AM (#22645233)
The steam injection ovens, invented IIRC in the early 20th century, were nearly the death of French bread, supplanted by the insipid industrial baguette.

Luckily Lionel Poilâne revived artisanal French bread in the 1970s, resulting in loaves like those pictured in the article.

Re:Quarantine Bread by iainmerrick on Saturday March 21, 2020 @06:34AM (#22645662)
I dunno, I’m not sure you can attribute either the industrialization of bread production, or the artisanal bread movement, to any one invention or person.

For example, you could tell exactly the same story about the electric mixer leading to faster bread making, leading to large-scale production of low-quality bread; and Raymond Carvel reviving artisanal French bread with his popularization of autolysis (mixing the flour and water and resting it before adding yeast).

Re:Quarantine Bread by jiofih on Saturday March 21, 2020 @08:22AM (#22646053)
Insipid baguette? Where do you buy them? Even supermarket bakeries make pretty good ones in Europe.
Re:Quarantine Bread by gumby on Saturday March 21, 2020 @01:06PM (#22647943)
The industrial baguette (which includes those of a lot of bakeries) is pretty uninteresting, with a uniform and non-structural internal texture and a vaguely crusty exterior. Compare that to the radically different banette you can find at artisanal bakeries which unfortunately of course are hard to sustain financially outside wealthy enclaves.

Also if you didn't experience it, the food choices of the 60s, 70s, and even early 80s were pretty restricted and of poor quality in Europe, Australia and the USA (and likely elsewhere). Even in the USA where there was an explosion of products, the quality of the food was poor and largely undifferentiated. And thus with bread in France.

I was lucky that our home in Paris had several good bakeries within a few minutes' walk of our front door (including Poilâne's) but it was obvious that this was a product of economic good fortune. But when you venture out to the countryside in France or Germany the goods in shops primarily come from a truck from a faraway factory. Surprisingly this appears to me (unscientifically) to be more extreme in France than Germany

Re:Quarantine Bread by OJFord on Saturday March 21, 2020 @12:10PM (#22647503)
UK supermarket baguettes are a poor approximation of continental Europe's (I suppose most of my experience is of France's).

Actually, Waitrose's baguette - as opposed to its 'flute' or 'French stick' - is not bad. Not as good, but not bad. The cheaper flutes and sticks (which seem to be all that other places sell) are just.. completely different.

I've never had a baguette with a nice crispy outside that results in flakes all over the breakfast table, and a soft, fluffy, inside like those so prevalent in France though.

While I'm at it - tomatoes! Tomatoes are so much nicer in France too.