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Re:Show HN: Remotehour – Allows people to talk to you anytim... by ackbar03 on Thursday March 19, 2020 @08:52AM (#22626938)

On that point, is it actually? I've been messing around with p2p lately and everything is behind a Nat these days, it's almost impossible to do without a relay server which will probably be a dedicated relay server since most clients are going to be behind some sort of router.

And before anyone says hole punching, thats pretty much useless these days since almost all NATs are symmetric Nats now, the outgoing and incoming ports won't be matched the same even if the same socket is the same one. (if anyone is having success with this I'd love to know how they are doing it)

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Re:Show HN: Remotehour – Allows people to talk to you anytim... by wyager on Friday March 20, 2020 @04:01AM (#22635868)

NAT seems like it has been a disaster for the internet. It basically forces us to route things through dedicated centralized servers, actively damping investment and research into P2P technology. Some of the most useful networking things I’ve learned in the last few years have basically been ways to circumvent NAT-induced problems.

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Re:Show HN: Remotehour – Allows people to talk to you anytim... by ackbar03 on Friday March 20, 2020 @10:40AM (#22637862)

Yea that was pretty much how I viewed it as well. There seemed to be a lot of research on p2p research but nat made everything impractical. That being said nat was an necessity due to ip4, but given how widespread it is now I somehow doubt ip6 is really going to make p2p easier

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