WolframScript enables Wolfram Language code to be run from any terminal

Re:WolframScript enables Wolfram Language code to be run fro... by qubex on Thursday March 19, 2020 @07:24AM (#22626433)

I’m a Mathematica addict and (as I have remarked elsewhere) rely predominantly on iPads as my platform of choice. Sure, Wolfram Online works fine when a network connection is available, but I’m really, really, really hoping that sooner rather than later they’ll release a fully fledged notebook & back-end kernel version of Mathematica for the iPad.

This shows some flexibility on their behalf, but it’s moving in the wrong direction (as far as I’m concerned, at least).

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Re:WolframScript enables Wolfram Language code to be run fro... by akjssdk on Thursday March 19, 2020 @09:07AM (#22627070)

I would say that porting Mathematica to the iPad would require them to be able to run the Mathematica engine on iPadOS. And with the strict rules Apple has around arbitrary code execution I would highly doubt that is going to happen.

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Re:WolframScript enables Wolfram Language code to be run fro... by qubex on Thursday March 19, 2020 @09:09AM (#22627086)

That’s actually a misconception: Apple has allowed interpreted languages (e.g. Python, as in Pythonista) to tun on iOS/iPadOS for several years now. The Wolfram Language is definitely an interpreted language and therefore would not fall afoul of their rules.

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Re:WolframScript enables Wolfram Language code to be run fro... by 7thaccount on Thursday March 19, 2020 @09:11AM (#22627108)

It's also a multi-gigabyte installation full of Java, C, and Wolfram code. It is huge....so I'm sure there are some difficulties.

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Re:WolframScript enables Wolfram Language code to be run fro... by jxy on Thursday March 19, 2020 @12:27PM (#22629026)

I have been using the engine for almost a year since they announced it. Without the notebook interface, it's only 1.6 GB.

    $ du -h -d3 pkg/Wolfram/
    3.1M    pkg/Wolfram/WolframScript/bin
    3.1M    pkg/Wolfram/WolframScript
    5.0K    pkg/Wolfram/man/man1
    5.5K    pkg/Wolfram/man
     13K    pkg/Wolfram/doc/wolframscript
     14K    pkg/Wolfram/doc
     40K    pkg/Wolfram/WolframEngine/12.0/Executables
     30M    pkg/Wolfram/WolframEngine/12.0/AddOns
    1.6G    pkg/Wolfram/WolframEngine/12.0/SystemFiles
     10K    pkg/Wolfram/WolframEngine/12.0/Configuration
    1.6G    pkg/Wolfram/WolframEngine/12.0
    1.6G    pkg/Wolfram/WolframEngine
    1.6G    pkg/Wolfram/

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Re:WolframScript enables Wolfram Language code to be run fro... by 7thaccount on Thursday March 19, 2020 @01:05PM (#22629412)

Other people below are showing 6-8 GB on their systems, so it's lower than what I recall, but still higher than your figure I would normally bet. Are you only counting 1.6 once?

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Re:WolframScript enables Wolfram Language code to be run fro... by jxy on Thursday March 19, 2020 @02:22PM (#22630163)

What do you mean? Should I count 1.6 multiple times?

I just realized that this number is after ZFS compression. Here is the apparent size,

    $ du -h -A -d3 pkg/Wolfram/
    5.0M pkg/Wolfram/WolframScript/bin
    5.0M pkg/Wolfram/WolframScript
    8.5K pkg/Wolfram/man/man1
    9.0K pkg/Wolfram/man
     16K pkg/Wolfram/doc/wolframscript
     16K pkg/Wolfram/doc
     30K pkg/Wolfram/WolframEngine/12.0/Executables
     46M pkg/Wolfram/WolframEngine/12.0/AddOns
    2.9G pkg/Wolfram/WolframEngine/12.0/SystemFiles
    2.0K pkg/Wolfram/WolframEngine/12.0/Configuration
    3.0G pkg/Wolfram/WolframEngine/12.0
    3.0G pkg/Wolfram/WolframEngine
    3.0G pkg/Wolfram/

Actually the downloaded file is a little over 1 GB,

    $ stat -f "%z %N"  Downloads/WolframEngine_12.0.0_LINUX.sh   
    1177035547 Downloads/WolframEngine_12.0.0_LINUX.sh

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Re:WolframScript enables Wolfram Language code to be run fro... by geocar on Thursday March 19, 2020 @09:57AM (#22627522)

> It's also a multi-gigabyte installation full of Java, C, ...

Sounds like the Facebook app.

I think people are okay with gigabyte apps now.

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Re:WolframScript enables Wolfram Language code to be run fro... by 7thaccount on Thursday March 19, 2020 @11:43AM (#22628507)

Yeah, but it is like 15-20 GB if I recall correctly. It's been a few years, but I was like daaaaang.

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Re:WolframScript enables Wolfram Language code to be run fro... by tikej on Thursday March 19, 2020 @12:00PM (#22628707)

Nah, it's around 8GB that can be trimmed to ~5GB if some example files and graphs are deleted from the documentation.

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Re:WolframScript enables Wolfram Language code to be run fro... by abdullahkhalids on Thursday March 19, 2020 @11:55AM (#22628643)

It is about 6GB on my linux system.

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Re:WolframScript enables Wolfram Language code to be run fro... by qubex on Thursday March 19, 2020 @09:35AM (#22627312)

The fact that they’ve “tidied up” their command-line release (somewhat) raises my hopes by a marginal amount.

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Re:WolframScript enables Wolfram Language code to be run fro... by stephenl on Sunday March 22, 2020 @11:00PM (#22660867)

Regarding running the engine on iOS: Technically they do that now with their Wolfram Player App on the iOS. The calculations are done on the iPad and not sent to a server like the Wolfram Cloud app.

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Re:WolframScript enables Wolfram Language code to be run fro... by drewbug on Thursday March 19, 2020 @09:12AM (#22627117)

Per the App Store Review Guidelines:

> Apps should be self-contained in their bundles, and may not read or write data outside the designated container area, nor may they download, install, or execute code which introduces or changes features or functionality of the app, including other apps.

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Re:WolframScript enables Wolfram Language code to be run fro... by mattkrause on Thursday March 19, 2020 @11:52AM (#22628616)

That seems to be saying updates should go through the app store, rather than blithely downloading and running random bits of code.

It doesn't rule out something like Pythonista (which is great!) that lets you write/run your own code (which doesn't change the app itself).

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Re:WolframScript enables Wolfram Language code to be run fro... by jwr on Thursday March 19, 2020 @08:05AM (#22626656)

Oh, yes, please. The iPad (especially the Pro ones) is such an incredible machine — thin, light, fantastic battery life, and faster than most laptops. It would run Mathematica really, really well.

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Re:WolframScript enables Wolfram Language code to be run fro... by qubex on Thursday March 19, 2020 @09:45AM (#22627413)

It would be an amazing platform. It almost pains me that the inherent potential is not (yet) realised.

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