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Re:Tesla appears to defy Bay Area shutdown, plans to operate... by stickfigure on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @02:48PM (#22608621)
VW is a much bigger company which can afford the slack. Tesla is a small upstart that's never turned a profit.

From cold calculus it might be worth risking a few more lives to keep the concern going.

Re:Tesla appears to defy Bay Area shutdown, plans to operate... by rurp on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @05:41PM (#22610770)
So you think it's OK for a business to knowingly take actions that are likely to kill people, as long as they really need the money? Thank God most of modern society disagrees with you.
Re:Tesla appears to defy Bay Area shutdown, plans to operate... by stickfigure on Wednesday March 18, 2020 @12:46AM (#22613721)
I have bad news for you: Modern society not only allows business and individuals to take actions that will kill people, but it quantifies to what extent in dollar terms:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_of_life

Scroll down for a country-by-country breakdown.

I personally don't pass judgement on it.

Re:Tesla appears to defy Bay Area shutdown, plans to operate... by dekhn on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @03:24PM (#22609123)
thats not an argument for calling tesla an essential service.
Re:Tesla appears to defy Bay Area shutdown, plans to operate... by new_realist on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @03:51PM (#22609509)
Tesla is a $100B, 17 year old company.
Re:Tesla appears to defy Bay Area shutdown, plans to operate... by jsight on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @04:24PM (#22609905)
I'm not sure of your point here? Presumably Tesla's capital position is still significantly smaller than VW? I do not know this, though, as I am not as familiar with VW's capital structure.

TBH, I'm more worried about what will happen with Ford or GM if they have even a short outage. GM has massive ongoing obligations and a relatively weak balance sheet, afaik.

Re:Tesla appears to defy Bay Area shutdown, plans to operate... by bdcravens on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @04:00PM (#22609615)
It was. The recent damage to the price puts it closer to $80B today.
Re:Tesla appears to defy Bay Area shutdown, plans to operate... by bdcravens on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @03:59PM (#22609610)
Strictly in terms of market cap (not the best metric, admittedly) Tesla is larger than VW. (both company's stocks have been devastated recently though)
Re:Tesla appears to defy Bay Area shutdown, plans to operate... by stickfigure on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @04:19PM (#22609856)
Market cap is a psychological construct. It will not help you when you're already bleeding cash and your cash flow suddenly goes sharply negative. It's entirely possible that this calamity will kill off some very large companies (by any metric) that have been operating in the margin.
Re:Tesla appears to defy Bay Area shutdown, plans to operate... by cjhopman on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @07:09PM (#22611647)
Sure, but it's a good argument against calling something a "small upstart".