Re:Coronavirus: 18% of U.S. workers have lost jobs or hours,...
by simondw on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @02:40PM
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Grouping related things together isn't necessarily conflating.
I don't think the article is trying to say "18% of workers have basically lost their jobs!!!", but rather to give a sense of how many people's incomes are impacted.
Re:Coronavirus: 18% of U.S. workers have lost jobs or hours,...
by WillPostForFood on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @02:45PM
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If they weren't trying to conflate them the headline would have been "Coronavirus: 18% of U.S. workers have reduced our or lost jobs"
Re:Coronavirus: 18% of U.S. workers have lost jobs or hours,...
by Tallasatree on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @02:42PM
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Agreed, losing a job is very different than getting hours cut. Both suck, one sucks much much more.
Re:Coronavirus: 18% of U.S. workers have lost jobs or hours,...
by dangus on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @02:27PM
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No, they’re talking about just one thing - not receiving pay.
Re:Coronavirus: 18% of U.S. workers have lost jobs or hours,...
by amiga_500 on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @02:31PM
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First paragraph (and headline):
> Some 18% of adults reported that they had been laid off or that their work hours had been cut
Re:Coronavirus: 18% of U.S. workers have lost jobs or hours,...
by elicash on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @02:56PM
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I think the person you responded to was saying was that both of those things (being laid off and having hours cut) involve not receiving some amount of pay. And that that's the reason they were grouped together.
Basically that it was answering one specific question: How many had pay impacted. But that it doesn't answer these other questions that yes would in fact be very useful, including a breakdown.
Re:Coronavirus: 18% of U.S. workers have lost jobs or hours,...
by amiga_500 on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @02:59PM
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Perhaps, but the data is merged and too much information is lost.
Did I prick my finger or lose 4 pints of blood! == Less overtime or fired.
Re:Coronavirus: 18% of U.S. workers have lost jobs or hours,...
by elicash on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @10:00PM
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I don't think that's a fair comparison, personally. Getting your hours cut is a big deal and might mean you can't pay your bills.
Like I said, I think it's great to split them out if you can, but let's not minimize actual pain people are going to be going through right now. Especially on a site where the average income is so much higher than most.
Losing hours and losing jobs are two very different things, conflating statistics like this is counterproductive to understanding.