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Re:What If Andrew Yang Was Right? by bavell on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @01:01AM (#22601850)
Why would I choose to jump through bureaucratic and degrading welfare programs for vouchers and discounts when I can opt-in to a superior UBI program that gives me cash which I can use for anything? I'm the one who best knows how to effectively allocate those resources in my life. E.g. What good are food stamps when I have no gas (or car) to get to the store?

There are some social services that are necessary and beneficial but these should be built on top of a UBI foundation for maximum effectiveness.

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Re:What If Andrew Yang Was Right? by puzzledobserver on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @01:23AM (#22601971)
Ohh, but then the UBI recipient may use it to purchase something that Big Brother doesn't want them to buy... like using SNAP to buy hot food.

On a more serious note, yes. Beyond basic necessities like healthcare and education, that the government would like to micromanage lives of welfare recipients feels demeaning in the extreme.

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Re:What If Andrew Yang Was Right? by asdf9240 on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @03:03AM (#22602465)
> I'm the one who best knows how to effectively allocate those resources in my life.

Some people do not get good enough education and do not know how to effectively allocate resources.

> There are some social services that are necessary and beneficial but these should be built on top of a UBI foundation for maximum effectiveness.

Do you mean the other way around? Necessary social services should be the foundation with UBI built on top of it. Social services can do some things better than UBI can even when assuming everyone uses their UBI completely rationally.

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Re:What If Andrew Yang Was Right? by derrick_jensen on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @12:20PM (#22606514)
Exactly. If you knew how to best allocate resources in your life, you probably wouldn't be in a situation where you need UBI.
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Re:What If Andrew Yang Was Right? by luckylion on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @03:59AM (#22602731)
> Why would I choose to jump through bureaucratic and degrading welfare programs for vouchers and discounts when I can opt-in to a superior UBI program that gives me cash which I can use for anything?

Because we'll have an issue when you spend your UBI on anything and then need assistance with rent, food etc pp.

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Re:What If Andrew Yang Was Right? by monadic2 on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @01:18AM (#22601945)
UBI still does not provide health care.
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Re:What If Andrew Yang Was Right? by bavell on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @01:24AM (#22601977)
Right. It also doesn't address climate change. Or gay rights, regime-change wars, or gender discrimination.

It just provides every American with increased economic freedom. It's a good thing my doctor accepts USD :)

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Re:What If Andrew Yang Was Right? by monadic2 on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @11:34AM (#22605844)
> It's a good thing my doctor accepts USD :)

That $1000 check will only cover the ride to the hospital before tax.

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Re:What If Andrew Yang Was Right? by theklub on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @08:52AM (#22604393)
How many people would take UBI, buy drugs, alcohol, hell go down to the casino every month and blow it all in 30 seconds....
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