Re:Ask HN: Is UK government insane or genius?
by lmm on Saturday March 14, 2020 @10:49PM
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> On the one hand, we have people getting evicted from their homes and having to visit soup kitchens.
Which translates directly into many years of reduced life expectancy, no?
Re:Ask HN: Is UK government insane or genius?
by Retric on Saturday March 14, 2020 @11:11PM
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I have trouble seeing a worse economy for a few months vs a highly optimistic 100,000+ dead having similar numbers of lost lives.
It's not just a few months though; a 0.2% recession (say) quite possibly translates to everyone in the future being 0.2% worse off, forever.
Re:Ask HN: Is UK government insane or genius?
by Scea91 on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @05:12AM
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That would be true if annual returns were independent of each other which is definitely not the case.
Re:Ask HN: Is UK government insane or genius?
by ethbro on Saturday March 14, 2020 @11:01PM
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I understand the point you and GP are trying to make.
I'm saying that the two miseries feel like apples vs oranges, given the context.
You'd have to go pretty far to convince me that (even mass) economic depression is more harmful than widespread, near-term fatalities.
That is part of the problem. It is very hard to quantify the consequences of economic depression because it affects everyone at least a little bit, and some more than others. It might cause so and so many more people to have to go through therapy, so and so many families break up over financial hardships, and the children are ever so slightly worse off and the second-order consequences aren't fully realised until 30 years down the line. It's individually (possibly) very small effects, but it hits the entire population.
That's hard to weigh against a concrete number of very concrete deaths and serious recuperation periods.
mass economic depression affects certain groups more than others.
Near-term fatalities affect certain groups more than others. Those with access to medical services (or can pay for more of it) will be less affected.
Which side being worse is a determination you have to make for yourself.
Let's quantify things here, for a first world country with a social net.
On the one hand, we have people getting evicted from their homes and having to visit soup kitchens.
On the other hand, we have dead people (more likely, dead poor people).
Evil seems pretty fair.