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Re:Planet is 'way off track' in dealing with climate change,... by shadowgovt on Thursday March 12, 2020 @03:25PM (#22560727)
I hate to be the bearer of bad hot takes, but the burdens falling disproportionately on the poor is not a reason to avoid catastrophic global collapse.

Even though it's unfair, if the choice is "the burdens fall on the poor" and "the burdens fall on everyone (including the poor, who will be hit harder because they have fewer resources in reserve to survive unplanned catastrophe)", the first option is better.

(... it's also a false forced choice; there are other options. But the question of poverty runs somewhat separate to the question of saving humanity from climate change).

Re:Planet is 'way off track' in dealing with climate change,... by twblalock on Thursday March 12, 2020 @03:29PM (#22560781)
> I hate to be the bearer of bad hot takes, but the burdens falling disproportionately on the poor is not a reason to avoid catastrophic global collapse.

It is if there will be civil unrest, leading to the election of reactionary populist governments which roll back emission cuts.

Approaches to the problem that enrage a large portion of the citizenry are counterproductive. They won't work in a democracy, and most of the large polluters are democracies.

The French people are generally considered to be pretty left-wing (at least by outsiders) but they took to the streets as soon as the government raised fuel prices. Imagine how well that kind of policy would go down in Texas.

Poverty is therefore directly related to the question of solving climate change.

Re:Planet is 'way off track' in dealing with climate change,... by mntmoss on Thursday March 12, 2020 @06:35PM (#22562661)
Marketing will solve this aspect of the challenge. Poverty is a relative state, not an absolute one: We want more because our betters have more. The negative associated personal outcomes of poverty are not a corrollary of insufficient carbon emission.

Therefore, market to the people climate-friendly lifestyles. Show celebrities doing their part. Make it easy to pick the right option by default with purchases. Encourage more local events and travel. It has been demonstrated that people respond to good storytelling and I don't think that is going to change.