Covid-19 is now officially a pandemic, WHO says

Re:Covid-19 is now officially a pandemic, WHO says by joe_the_user on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @04:46PM (#22550326)

Absolutely this summarizes the situation.

It's worth noting that South Korea also was able to engage in such mass mobilization. Moreover, if the trends continue for a few weeks, China's not going to have an order of magnitude more death anymore.

Italy's high CFR sounds like a health care that's broken far more than the Chinese health care system, a system which essentially isn't taking any specific extreme measures (which would be building more hospitals, importing more health care workers, etc).

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Re:Covid-19 is now officially a pandemic, WHO says by selectodude on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @05:52PM (#22551194)

Italy also has a demographic curve skewed heavily older than most other nations. Italy is the 2nd oldest country on earth after Japan.

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Re:Covid-19 is now officially a pandemic, WHO says by dmix on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @06:04PM (#22551297)

And 89% of Italy's fatal cases are people >70yrs old.

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Re:Covid-19 is now officially a pandemic, WHO says by shadowprofile77 on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @07:01PM (#22551731)

If you don't mind, Where did you find this information? I've been searching for a breakdown of all fatalities so far by age group (raw numbers, not just average percentages) and could not find it.

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Re:Covid-19 is now officially a pandemic, WHO says by jurassic on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @07:57PM (#22552104)

It was covered in the WSJ earlier this week: https://www.wsj.com/articles/italy-with-elderly-population-h...

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Re:Covid-19 is now officially a pandemic, WHO says by shadowprofile77 on Thursday March 12, 2020 @03:32AM (#22554603)

Thank you to all three of you for these.

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Re:Covid-19 is now officially a pandemic, WHO says by NortySpock on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @10:27PM (#22553016)

https://www.flattenthecurve.com/#This_is_Not_Normal_Flu_-_No... Percentage graph at the link from Chinese CDC, though

Korea CDC has raw numbers it looks like. https://www.cdc.go.kr/board/board.es?mid=a30402000000&bid=00...

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Re:Covid-19 is now officially a pandemic, WHO says by beauzero on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @11:17PM (#22553357)

https://www.reddit.com/r/covid19 ...pretty well curated. Mostly scientific articles, stats, etc.

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Re:Covid-19 is now officially a pandemic, WHO says by Nuzzerino on Thursday March 12, 2020 @07:37PM (#22563210)

You may want to reconsider relying on /r/COVID19 as a source of information. There's been a lot of criticism on how they are applying censorship, and no transparency around it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/f2jiyz/uclo_jun...

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Re:Covid-19 is now officially a pandemic, WHO says by dugditches on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @07:00PM (#22551719)

Because they're still treating them in some regard(before being overwhelmed).

However once things get even more overwhelmed, you have bad cases become critical leading to more fatalities.

The going figure seems to 20% are badly impacted, with 5% of that critical. Some of that 15% will become critical without treatment that might not be available. Thus impacting people <70.

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Re:Covid-19 is now officially a pandemic, WHO says by marvin on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @07:13PM (#22551815)

Thus far. Most of the younger critical patients are not out of the woods yet. Also, many of those are left to die without treatment or assessment because there aren't enough ventilators for them.

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Re:Covid-19 is now officially a pandemic, WHO says by twsted on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @06:01PM (#22551273)

I don’t know how they compare, but consider that in the north of Italy there is one of the most advanced health care system in the world.

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Re:Covid-19 is now officially a pandemic, WHO says by jupp0r on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @06:48PM (#22551643)

I'm not sure "advanced" is what's needed for healthcare systems to cope with this. It's relatively low-tech care scaled up quickly. My fear is that the amount of institutional inertia, and where in time the inflection point of overcoming that inertia lies will determine outcomes.

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