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Re:A petition is calling on Pornhub to prevent non-consensua... by ocdtrekkie on Monday March 09, 2020 @04:53PM (#22529689)
> As much as possible?

Why? A given viewer is going to watch how many minutes of content a day? Even accepting for a wide spectrum of preferences, there's no reason PornHub needs three hours of new content a minute. Nobody's "already watched everything on PornHub", have they? If they can't manage it ethically, they shouldn't be allowed to.

> I think we are talking about tens of millions dollars now.

Good thing PornHub's reported 2015 revenue was nearly half a billion. They can afford to operate ethically.

> So PornHub now has to perform full KYC

Not really know-your-customer. In this case it's know-your-content-provider. I certainly don't suggest every viewer of porn needs to register. But every publisher of it, including amateur channels, should.

> This is not a cheap service at all.

Again, this company operates on a half billion dollar a year scale. They can afford to hire someone who can verify what a Hungarian driver's license looks like. They aren't poor.

Re:A petition is calling on Pornhub to prevent non-consensua... by adontz on Monday March 09, 2020 @05:08PM (#22529832)
>> As much as possible? >Why?

Because PornHub is a platform. Why not limit uploading videos on YouTube, just because they can't moderate them all?

> Good thing PornHub's reported 2015 revenue was nearly half a billion. They can afford to operate ethically. > They can afford to hire someone who can verify what a Hungarian driver's license looks like. They aren't poor.

First, define ethically in a worldwide accepted way.

Second, you are asking a business to take a loss just because you want them to. I don't think "ethically" is a strict legal term.

I believe there should be an unambiguous law taking into account interests of all parties. People get killed by cars, but cars are legal. We can't punish drivers only. And we can't punish content providers only.

> In this case it's know-your-content-provider.

I have posted on anonymity here. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22529650 It's simply dangerous.

Re:A petition is calling on Pornhub to prevent non-consensua... by ocdtrekkie on Monday March 09, 2020 @05:17PM (#22529909)
> Because PornHub is a platform. Why not limit uploading videos on YouTube

Platforms aren't an inherent good. I absolutely think YouTube should be held accountable for it's behavior and the way it radicalizes people by recommending increasingly extreme videos. YouTube is a platform that is out of control, and another example of why unchecked immunity for platforms is a dystopian nightmare.

> define ethically in a worldwide accepted way

Not profiting from the distribution of child pornography. I think that's pretty universally understood to be required of ethical business. "Ethical" isn't a strict legal term, "distribution of child porn" is though.

Re:A petition is calling on Pornhub to prevent non-consensua... by Ghjklov on Monday March 09, 2020 @05:12PM (#22529857)
>Why? A given viewer is going to watch how many minutes of content a day? Even accepting for a wide spectrum of preferences, there's no reason PornHub needs three hours of new content a minute.

I assume because not all pornographic content is equal and that much of it never gets seen or opened for a few seconds only to be abandoned.

Re:A petition is calling on Pornhub to prevent non-consensua... by ocdtrekkie on Monday March 09, 2020 @05:14PM (#22529881)
With an adequate moderation strategy and proper vetting of channels, most low value content is going to evaporate. I'm not sure why a site getting two hours of new unwatched low quality video a minute is a selling point to anyone. It's probably not even that great of a business model.
Re:A petition is calling on Pornhub to prevent non-consensua... by Ghjklov on Monday March 09, 2020 @05:16PM (#22529899)
This is mere conjecture but, wouldn't you spend more time on PornHub if there was so much crap to browse through to find the perfect video to get off to, as opposed to finding it right away and then leaving the website as soon as you finish?
Re:A petition is calling on Pornhub to prevent non-consensua... by ocdtrekkie on Monday March 09, 2020 @05:24PM (#22529979)
True, though that's a very perverse incentive, as you're suggesting PornHub's best bet is to waste as much of their users' time as possible in getting to the right video, without frustrating them enough that they leave the site and go elsewhere. I suppose they'd get more search-page-result ad displays in, but arguably it makes them a worse porn site. The fact that they're the by-far most popular suggests that they don't provide a worse experience than other sites.

(I know PornHub releases a lot of statistics annually, I am sure average time for a user to... achieve their goal on the site for the day... is a figure they have released before.)