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Re:US Army scraps $1B Iron Dome project after Israel refuses... by nujabe on Saturday March 07, 2020 @09:01PM (#22515794)
>The shocking part to me is that Israel truly thought they could make the deal work without providing something that could be vetted.

Not shocking at all imo. The Israelis have shown an extraordinary amount of chutzpah over the decades in their dealings with the US. They are of the belief the US is the real benefactor in this "special relationship".

>But US doesn't provide source code too

The US is effectively paying for the development of Iron Dome [1]. Requesting source code is completely warranted, in fact I would go further and demand the source code if Israel wants the US to continue funding the program

[1] https://www.timesofisrael.com/obama-approves-225-million-in-...

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Re:US Army scraps $1B Iron Dome project after Israel refuses... by captainredbeard on Saturday March 07, 2020 @11:30PM (#22516351)
I find it very strange that Israel flew the first (known) F35 combat mission. Why do we give them such priority technology access compared to, say, the UK or other close, Five Eyes allies?
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Re:US Army scraps $1B Iron Dome project after Israel refuses... by hadlock on Sunday March 08, 2020 @10:09PM (#22522308)
Israel has a particularly close relationship with the United States via a decades long lobbying effort. Israeli media often debates whether or not the nickname "the 51st state" is accurate or not, and whether they are too dependent on the US. Israel has a program to fly Americans to Israel for free for two weeks as part of a cultural exchange program to build ties. They're heavily invested in this.

The UK and Australia are close allies too, but Israel is quite small (geographically the size of New Jersey) and only about 8 million - the total population of California's bay area, and surrounded by countries that often times are at best neutral. Israel has a strong incentive to win and maintain US friendship.

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Re:US Army scraps $1B Iron Dome project after Israel refuses... by nradov on Sunday March 08, 2020 @12:18AM (#22516472)
The UK is the only tier 1 partner on the F-35 program. They have more access to source code than Israel or any other nation outside the USA.
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Re:US Army scraps $1B Iron Dome project after Israel refuses... by godzillabrennus on Sunday March 08, 2020 @03:13AM (#22516763)
Democratic governments in the Middle East aren’t exactly everywhere.

Israel has a special relationship with the developed world.

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Re:US Army scraps $1B Iron Dome project after Israel refuses... by captainredbeard on Sunday March 08, 2020 @10:30AM (#22518183)
Why should US lives and dollars go to the Middle East? I couldn’t care less what happens there.
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Re:US Army scraps $1B Iron Dome project after Israel refuses... by jfengel on Monday March 09, 2020 @11:20AM (#22526078)
Given the way US economic life blood flows from there, lots of people do care. We've been trying to reduce our dependence on that, but a lot of the world economy still lives and dies on oil prices.
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Re:US Army scraps $1B Iron Dome project after Israel refuses... by bjourne on Sunday March 08, 2020 @10:21AM (#22518142)
AIPAC
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Re:US Army scraps $1B Iron Dome project after Israel refuses... by 3fe9a03ccd14ca5 on Saturday March 07, 2020 @11:31PM (#22516358)
I’m okay with our current partnership, where we provide the money and another country provides the “testing”.
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