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Re:Boeing 737 Max Aircraft: Preliminary Investigative Findin... by bumby on Saturday March 07, 2020 @08:25PM (#22515613)
I noticed from your bio that you worked at JPL.

Is any of this unique to JPL (or at least more extreme there) due its organizational structure that is somewhat different than other NASA Centers? I’ve sometimes heard of JPL being “quasi-NASA” and thus playing by a different set of rules

Re:Boeing 737 Max Aircraft: Preliminary Investigative Findin... by lisper on Saturday March 07, 2020 @08:59PM (#22515786)
If anything, I think JPL is probably better than the rest of the aerospace industry in this regard. I think JPL actively tries to shield its technical people from some of the ugly politics playing out behind the scenes. In retrospect, I was definitely shielded from a lot of it for much of my career, particularly early on. That's a big reason my career was able to advance despite being so naive for so long. I think if I had been at Boeing I would have gone down in screaming flames much sooner.

But you also have to keep in mind that this was all a very long time ago. I'm offering my testimony here not so much to inform current events as to vouch for the plausibility of what V_Terranova_Jr said in the root comment of this thread.

Re:Boeing 737 Max Aircraft: Preliminary Investigative Findin... by redis_mlc on Sunday March 08, 2020 @01:27AM (#22516638)
I worked for the "Canadian JPL" back in the previous "climate change" panic, "the ozone hole."

Even though it was a government agency, working at a national lab felt even more productive than the private sector.

The reasons are that the departmental leadership is 100% done by research scientists who are ruthlessly efficient at doing science and writing papers about them.

My department had approx. 4 senior scientists, a computer hardware engineer, a payload engineer, a CNC technician, a sysadmin, 2 technical consultants, and one administrative staff.

We did custom payloads for the Shuttle, balloons and rockets which did atmospheric measurements. The software was primarily custom in C for telemetry and HP Basic/etc. for plotting.

I highly recommend working for a national lab for a couple of years. Besides an unlimited budget, it's great having a sense of mission.

Factoid 1: We used Fidonet to copy data from launch sites to the lab for quick turnaround and to ensure the instruments were functioning and calibrated properly.

Factoid 2: Since this we pre-WWW, sample source code was often hard to obtain. So we had the world's shareware on a single optical disk with an index file so people could find sample code.

Factoid 3: But since it was a national lab, if we needed, we had access to SOTA civil and military systems that came with source code. I was familiar with those systems, but we never needed them while I was involved.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozone_depletion

What was more tractable about studying the ozone hole than climate change was that we could make direct observations and reducing CFCs had a fairly immediate effect. There wasn't an issue with "ozone hole deniers."

To see the lab's papers, do a scientific search for Dr. Hans Fast and his co-authors.

Re:Boeing 737 Max Aircraft: Preliminary Investigative Findin... by bumby on Sunday March 08, 2020 @09:12AM (#22517836)
Thank you so much for this. I’ve been looking into applying to a few national labs and what you’ve started about the “mission first” culture is exactly what I’m looking for