Europe sees warmest winter since records began

Re:Europe sees warmest winter since records began by bpfrh on Saturday March 07, 2020 @05:14AM (#22510879)

Not really, Germany for example, knows the plans they decided on won't work.

Austria has afaik still growing co2 emissions.

Don't know about other countries but at the moment if feels like europe talks a lot but doesn't do much.

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Re:Europe sees warmest winter since records began by clarry on Saturday March 07, 2020 @05:40AM (#22510943)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/15/World_fo...

EU stands out as the one line that has been trending down.

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Re:Europe sees warmest winter since records began by hef19898 on Saturday March 07, 2020 @05:49AM (#22510968)

Austria might change so, now that the green party is part of the government coalition. Could very well be too little too late, so.

Germany is different matter, we are still building new coal plants while making wind more or less impossible in Bavaria. Hope that changes as well, if nobody seriously starts nothing will ever get done.

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Re:Europe sees warmest winter since records began by MrDresden on Saturday March 07, 2020 @05:03AM (#22510858)

Perhaps, but so much more needs to be done.

I am afraid that we as a species wont be able to act together quickly enough to have a real chance of halting the run-away changes that seem to be starting up all over the planet.

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Re:Europe sees warmest winter since records began by tcd on Saturday March 07, 2020 @05:35AM (#22510932)

I think it's already too late - US is withdrawing from the Paris agreement. Australia is in complete denial it seems

We need to reduce emissions yesterday and reduce our plastic output considerably. We're not doing anything on a scale big/quick enough to matter.

We don't have until 2050 or the targets some governments have set.

We need it done by next year, 2021, but that's unlikely to happen. We need new laws enacting tomorrow and to give everyone a big kick up the ass to get their acts together.

That's not going to happen, no matter how desperate Greta, Attenborough make it seem.

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Re:Europe sees warmest winter since records began by perfunctory on Saturday March 07, 2020 @05:54AM (#22510991)

> That's not going to happen, no matter how desperate Greta, Attenborough make it seem.

True. Greta alone won't save the climate for us. We need to get afk and go help her.

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Re:Europe sees warmest winter since records began by perfunctory on Saturday March 07, 2020 @05:50AM (#22510976)

> I am afraid that we as a species wont be able to act together quickly enough

Let me just point out that we the species also include you. And me. It's up to us.

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Re:Europe sees warmest winter since records began by EForEndeavour on Sunday March 08, 2020 @10:52AM (#22518293)

While it's true that individual action is a critical part of mitigating climate change, I think OP was referring to the fact that a tiny portion of people control most money and power on earth, with which they could make positive changes at scale and faciliate said individual actions. We need change from individuals, but also from governments and corporations.

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Re:Europe sees warmest winter since records began by perfunctory on Sunday March 08, 2020 @03:44PM (#22520082)

> but also from governments and corporations

Absolutely. And the governments respond to popular pressure. When I say "It's up to us", I mean we should go out, join popular movements and pressure the government.

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Re:Europe sees warmest winter since records began by asutekku on Saturday March 07, 2020 @05:34AM (#22510929)

I would like to have a source on the first one, as none of the sources i found do not support your statement in carbon emissions. I really would like to see a source where Europe’s outsources emissions are marked to be the biggest.

https://www.ucsusa.org/resources/each-countrys-share-co2-emi...

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Re:Europe sees warmest winter since records began by dntbnmpls on Saturday March 07, 2020 @06:02AM (#22511017)

> as none of the sources i found do not support your statement in carbon emissions.

Because carbon emissions are measured at their output. So if european shoe/clothing manufacturers move to china, pollute in china and sell the products back in europe, that pollution would be credited to china when in actuality, the pollution was created for european consumption.

The easiest way to tell is by how large the consumer market is. Europe is the largest consumer market in the world. EU + the non-EU european states.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_consumer_marke...

Europe is an 800+ million people market with first world living standards. In the US, we probably slightly out-pollute europe on a per capita basis since our standard of living is slightly higher than europe overall, but since europe has 500 million more people than the US, I can safely say that collectively, europe outpollutes every major country/bloc in the world.

Do you think the clothes europeans wear, the electronics europeans use, etc all were created by a green energy fairy?

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