Re:People kept working, became healthier while on basic inco...
by auiya on Thursday March 05, 2020 @11:16AM
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I'd be willing to bet in most workplaces, about 20% of the workforce is dead weight - especially those in the management chain.
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Re:People kept working, became healthier while on basic inco...
by wongarsu on Thursday March 05, 2020 @11:27AM
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I wouldn't be surprised to learn that 20% of work time is spent on social media or other personal matters across all office workers.
Re:People kept working, became healthier while on basic inco...
by AnIdiotOnTheNet on Thursday March 05, 2020 @11:29AM
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I'd be very surprised if it was only 20%. By my estimation many office jobs are 50% or more just being paid to sit at a desk.
Re:People kept working, became healthier while on basic inco...
by Supermancho on Thursday March 05, 2020 @12:03PM
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And the less well paid jobs (eg Veterinary Assistant - not technician or McDonald's employee) have individuals working near constantly. There is a class divide under the 1% which is also quite stark, with regard to work demands.
Re:People kept working, became healthier while on basic inco...
by hinkley on Thursday March 05, 2020 @02:46PM
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I think I've witnessed that fraction go up when raises and promotions fail to meet expectations.
Re:People kept working, became healthier while on basic inco...
by nradov on Thursday March 05, 2020 @11:23AM
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Very few workplaces have 20% management. A few businesses have experimented with radically flattening the organization and cutting out management layers; this has generally not improved productivity or financial results.
Re:People kept working, became healthier while on basic inco...
by auiya on Thursday March 05, 2020 @02:24PM
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So radically flattening the organization and cutting out management layers has generally not improved productivity, but are you then saying it had little impact, or negative impact?
Re:People kept working, became healthier while on basic inco...
by calgoo on Thursday March 05, 2020 @12:01PM
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True, but I think the question should be if the company is worse off without the baggage management, not if they are more productive or have better financial results.
Re:People kept working, became healthier while on basic inco...
by nradov on Thursday March 05, 2020 @12:36PM
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The problem is that there is no scalable, reliable way to distinguish between "baggage" management and productive management in any large organization. Many have tried to solve that problem and no one has really succeeded. So cutting out management layers tends to indiscriminately eliminate the good with the bad. If you can figure out a better solution then you'll make a fortune as a management consultant.
Lower level employees often think they know which managers are baggage, and sometimes they're right, but often they're not seeing the whole picture. A manager who appears to be baggage from one perspective is sometimes performing crucial activities that are only visible from other perspectives. Management value added often can't be objectively measured but yet it exists all the same.