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Re:No Ghost in the Machine by aeturnum on Wednesday March 04, 2020 @12:00PM (#22485433)
Banks is referencing the idea of "vitalism" - that living things have some special quality that nonliving things lack. It's kind of like a soul: it doesn't come from any particular ability of living things (like your example of projecting an abstract).

A thinking vitalist would say that, even if a computer could do the thing you're talking about, it wouldn't be "conscious" because consciousness requires this aura that only living creatures possess.

Re:No Ghost in the Machine by AstralStorm on Wednesday March 04, 2020 @12:45PM (#22485882)
And vitalism fails because alleged vital property is undefined or tautological.

The most fun offshoot is philosophers moving qualia (perception-associations) out of the realm of neuroscience just enough every time there's an advancement.

Re:No Ghost in the Machine by mooseburger on Wednesday March 04, 2020 @12:57PM (#22486001)
Any example of that?