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Re:Ampere Altra 80-core ARM CPU by tmikaeld on Tuesday March 03, 2020 @11:49AM (#22476167)
I'm curious how this will perform vs AMD's Epyc line in terms of performance per Watt on different workloads.
Re:Ampere Altra 80-core ARM CPU by drewg123 on Tuesday March 03, 2020 @12:00PM (#22476292)
It depends on the workload. We tried the ampere emag, and what killed it for us was that TLS performance was nowhere near modern x86-64 CPUs (Intel or AMD)
Re:Ampere Altra 80-core ARM CPU by Rebelgecko on Tuesday March 03, 2020 @01:26PM (#22477276)
Was that heavily cipher dependent? I wouldn't be surprised if Chacha20 performed much better than AES w/o any hardware acceleration (other than SIMD instructions)
Re:Ampere Altra 80-core ARM CPU by drewg123 on Tuesday March 03, 2020 @02:14PM (#22477763)
Ah, that's interesting. We don't use chacha20. This was AES-GCM
Re:Ampere Altra 80-core ARM CPU by Rebelgecko on Tuesday March 03, 2020 @03:36PM (#22478477)
The situation is probably better now that ARMv8 has some crypto-specific instructions, but AES-GCM on older ARMs performed awfully without the instructions specifically for doing AES and Galois field multiplication
Re:Ampere Altra 80-core ARM CPU by magicalhippo on Tuesday March 03, 2020 @12:21PM (#22476534)
As a n00b, is that down to poor or lacking encryption hardware support ala AES-NI? Or something else?
Re:Ampere Altra 80-core ARM CPU by drewg123 on Tuesday March 03, 2020 @02:13PM (#22477752)
Yes.
Re:Ampere Altra 80-core ARM CPU by floatboth on Tuesday March 03, 2020 @02:39PM (#22477992)
You did make sure the AES instructions were used, right? I wouldn't be surprised the AES unit on the eMAG is relatively slow — other units seem to be as well, e.g. in my silly CRC32 benchmark, the Arm Cortex-A72 did 1kb in 79 ns at just 2.0 GHz while the eMAG did it in 103 ns at much faster clocks (3.0 or 3.3 GHz).

I suspect they might have reused these HW blocks from the old Applied Micro X-Gene :D

But now on the new product, it's all Arm Neoverse cores, it's gonna be great.

Re:Ampere Altra 80-core ARM CPU by cameron_b on Tuesday March 03, 2020 @12:02PM (#22476316)
did you use them on Packet?