Re:Minds, Machines and Gödel (1961)
by mannykannot on Monday March 02, 2020 @04:17PM
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I agree that none of these metaphors, including the digital computer one, have come close to providing anything close to an explanation of consciousness, but if the premise that a sufficiently-detailed digital simulation of a brain would have a mind turns out to be correct, then, by Turing equivalence, there is a sense in which the medium does not matter. Of course, none of the pre-Turing materialist claims were predicated on this insight!
Re:Minds, Machines and Gödel (1961)
by hackinthebochs on Monday March 02, 2020 @01:54PM
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Thinking of these metaphors as independent attempts at explaining nature is missing what was valuable about them. Their value isn't measured by how successful they were at an explanation, they were successful in orienting our thinking towards using lower level mechanism to explain higher level phenomena. But this effort isn't undermined as our understanding of mechanism becomes more sophisticated.
All of these metaphors were products of their time, and none of them came close to really solving the problem.
They just state "Well obviously this is just..." and declare the problem solved.
I'm not convinced that can be considered a history of unqualified success for technological reductionism.