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Re:New sense discovered in dog noses: the ability to detect ... by ebg13 on Monday March 02, 2020 @11:08AM (#22465582)
What a weird article. Humans can also detect heat. So is this is just about how some animals are more sensitive than others? Because I'm 100% certain that nobody in history has ever said "dog noses don't feel temperature".
Re:New sense discovered in dog noses: the ability to detect ... by dhosek on Monday March 02, 2020 @11:22AM (#22465756)
It's not merely sensing heat, but sensing weakly radiating heat from a distance. The human researchers could only distinguish the test and control objects by touching them.

Did you actually read the article?

Re:New sense discovered in dog noses: the ability to detect ... by dx87 on Monday March 02, 2020 @11:32AM (#22465859)
All the article says is that the nose of dogs is much more sensitive to heat than other animals, calling it a "new sense" is an exaggeration.
Re:New sense discovered in dog noses: the ability to detect ... by ebg13 on Monday March 02, 2020 @11:40AM (#22465972)
Humans also sense radiative heat from a distance. The only difference explicitly stated in the article is degree of sensitivity not a new sense.
Re:New sense discovered in dog noses: the ability to detect ... by wintermutesGhst on Monday March 02, 2020 @02:02PM (#22467599)
I think degree of sensitivity, discrimination, or directionality can warrant counting a 'new sense'. I would consider my sense of thermoreception to be different from that of a snake's heat-pits, or hearing to be a different sense from feeling vibrations.
Re:New sense discovered in dog noses: the ability to detect ... by frandroid on Monday March 02, 2020 @07:41PM (#22470712)
As the article about epistemology posted yesterday mentioned, at some point, a difference in degree becomes a difference in kind.
Re:New sense discovered in dog noses: the ability to detect ... by sombremesa on Monday March 02, 2020 @11:42AM (#22465988)
But it can be a nuisance.
Re:New sense discovered in dog noses: the ability to detect ... by DoofusOfDeath on Monday March 02, 2020 @11:51AM (#22466092)
This confused me as well. I didn't see anything in the article that distinguishes between the surface temperature of the nose being raised specifically via (a) infrared light vs. (b) some other source conductive heat transfer.

I'm not super familiar with mammal physiology, but I would think (a) counts as a new sense category, whereas (b) counts as a just a new understanding of how sensitive the nose is.

Re:New sense discovered in dog noses: the ability to detect ... by thaumasiotes on Monday March 02, 2020 @12:50PM (#22466785)
> I'm not super familiar with mammal physiology, but I would think (a) counts as a new sense category

> the surface temperature of the nose being raised specifically via (a) infrared light

If you've ever felt the sun on your skin, you've sensed heat from electromagnetic radiation.

If you've ever been in front of an infrared lamp or heater, you've sensed heat from infrared light in specific.

How would that be a new sense category?

Re:New sense discovered in dog noses: the ability to detect ... by lm28469 on Monday March 02, 2020 @12:33PM (#22466578)