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Re:‘Re-education’, forced labour and surveillance beyond Xin... by iaml on Sunday March 01, 2020 @05:50PM (#22459953)
Why do you think pinebook wouldn’t be subject to the same slave labor? Isn’t it manufactured in china?
Re:‘Re-education’, forced labour and surveillance beyond Xin... by Melting_Harps on Monday March 02, 2020 @02:55AM (#22462509)
> Why do you think pinebook wouldn’t be subject to the same slave labor? Isn’t it manufactured in china?

'all devices are manufactured and sold by Pine Microsystems Inc. based in Fremont, California. Its founder is TL Lim, the inventor of the PopBox and Popcorn Hour series of media players sold under the Syabas and Cloud Media brands'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Microsystems

Re:‘Re-education’, forced labour and surveillance beyond Xin... by iaml on Monday March 02, 2020 @03:57AM (#22462786)
It's impossible to make $200 laptops in small batches in US. They really don't like mentioning it tho.

https://www.pine64.org/2020/01/15/pinephones-start-shipping-... - it's about phones, but I believe laptops are produced there too.

Re:‘Re-education’, forced labour and surveillance beyond Xin... by Melting_Harps on Monday March 02, 2020 @04:13AM (#22462860)
> It's impossible to make $200 laptops in small batches in US. They really don't like mentioning it tho.

What? They state they do not make a profit from the sale of these devices on their storefront when you're ordering one, and are probably doing so at a loss to promote the ideology behind open source hardware/software.

But, your claim is mere speculation until you definitively can prove otherwise, and it seems that the phone is the device limited to HK production: not China. And, yes, there is a difference.

https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=8956&page=4

Update: From what I have been able to gather is that the single board computer itself is made in China, the assembly of the finished products like the Pinebook laptop are in CA. The phone, however, may likely be made in the mainland if I read that correctly (its late), which while slightly disappointing is not really a surprise. They're in HK awaiting shipping to Pine US.

https://www.pine64.org/2020/02/15/february-update-post-cny-a...

Re:‘Re-education’, forced labour and surveillance beyond Xin... by iaml on Monday March 02, 2020 @04:40AM (#22462984)
In your first link, in first post OP says that pine gear is produced in mainland china.
Re:‘Re-education’, forced labour and surveillance beyond Xin... by Melting_Harps on Monday March 02, 2020 @05:43AM (#22463274)
> Factories [in China] producing the PinePhone, PineTab and Pinebook Pro remain closed because they need to undergo a long and complicated procedure that will allow them to resume operation...

I found the confirmation I was looking for; 'gear' was an ambigious term that related to the internal components to these devices, I had read in previous posts that these were made in Fremont as well as the wiki.

However, after another screening of the update it seems that the Pinebook pro is in fact made on the Mainland as its been the cause for the delay in new pre-orders.