Intel Refreshes 2nd Gen Xeon Scalable, Slashes Prices

Re:Intel Refreshes 2nd Gen Xeon Scalable, Slashes Prices by rhizome on Sunday March 01, 2020 @01:11AM (#22455417)

>Show me how fast you go to market with a web application and mobile backend written as a single threaded C++ application. Also please tell me how long it took to secure and set up and maintain the server.

Let's not go crazy, Apache on metal is a very simple setup and at least as secure as S3 out of the box. Platform spread and simplicity are just lost concepts, that's all.

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Re:Intel Refreshes 2nd Gen Xeon Scalable, Slashes Prices by gumby on Sunday March 01, 2020 @01:54AM (#22455561)

I'm not sure it'd even be possible to run Apache on bare metal; it has too many dependencies on OS facilities.

I'm curious if people are running bare metal web servers. I'd think there's enough lookup, modules etc that it wouldn't be worth it (small embedded applications like IoT frobs excepted)

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Re:Intel Refreshes 2nd Gen Xeon Scalable, Slashes Prices by idclip on Sunday March 01, 2020 @02:33AM (#22455663)

Bare metal just means not a VM. The machine still has an OS.

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Re:Intel Refreshes 2nd Gen Xeon Scalable, Slashes Prices by pinkfoot on Sunday March 01, 2020 @02:47AM (#22455713)

No, it really does not mean that.

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Re:Intel Refreshes 2nd Gen Xeon Scalable, Slashes Prices by dragontamer on Sunday March 01, 2020 @03:52AM (#22455897)

https://us.ovhcloud.com/dedicated-servers/

> OVHcloud Best Value is a great way for you to experience the advantages of bare metal over virtual servers at an unbeatable price. Our Best Value bare metal servers feature the most stable environment, making it perfect for processing large volumes of data.

The terminology is "bare metal" when buying up dedicated servers these days. Some places still use the term "dedicated", but since the advent of "the cloud", the term "bare metal" has come up, since most instances are ASSUMED to be VPS.

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Re:Intel Refreshes 2nd Gen Xeon Scalable, Slashes Prices by gumby on Sunday March 01, 2020 @03:03AM (#22455747)

That doesn’t even make sense. Wouldn’t that be “non-virtualized”?

“Bare metal” has meant right on the bare hardware (silicon) since the 1960s. I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone use that expression in any other way.

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Re:Intel Refreshes 2nd Gen Xeon Scalable, Slashes Prices by apk-d on Sunday March 01, 2020 @03:33AM (#22455827)

Not really a cloud developer, so I looked up a couple of links and I haven't been able to find any uses of the term other than referring to a single-tenant machine that you have complete control over, as opposed to virtualized solutions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bare-metal_server https://www.ibm.com/cloud/bare-metal-servers/hosting-solutio... https://www.ionos.com/digitalguide/server/know-how/bare-meta... https://www.rackspace.com/library/what-is-a-bare-metal-serve...

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Re:Intel Refreshes 2nd Gen Xeon Scalable, Slashes Prices by snovv_crash on Sunday March 01, 2020 @03:53AM (#22455898)

For web, yes. For embedded systems, "bare metal" means running without an OS.

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Re:Intel Refreshes 2nd Gen Xeon Scalable, Slashes Prices by thawaway1837 on Sunday March 01, 2020 @06:27AM (#22456409)

That’s both correct and irrelevant because this entire thread is about running Apache, which is clearly about the web, considering Apache is a web server.

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Re:Intel Refreshes 2nd Gen Xeon Scalable, Slashes Prices by idclip on Sunday March 01, 2020 @06:37AM (#22456435)

You know whats funny? If be excited to see Apache run embedded on hardware.

This comment is claiming way too many victims. Shame, it'd be a rather exciting experiment!

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Re:Intel Refreshes 2nd Gen Xeon Scalable, Slashes Prices by DSingularity on Sunday March 01, 2020 @03:46AM (#22455866)

Bare metal is often used to mean using a CPU instead of a vCPU. But I can see why you would interpret it the way you did.

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