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Re:Freeman Dyson Has Died by titzer on Friday February 28, 2020 @10:42PM (#22448638)
> Wikipedia is not science.

That Wikipedia article has 158 sources cited. You? Zero.

> Repeating it won't make it so.

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/data/acorn-sat/#tabs=ACORN%E2%...

I mean, you can go trawl through the data yourself. The graph is in the last expandable fold. The page describes the data collection practices, peer review, the entire god damn thing right there. But you know what? You don't care. Because it's gonna be another bullshit thing, one after another---oh that's not real data. That's not science. That's fake news, lalalala, you don't wanna hear it, and on and on and on.

> Why? What possible benefit would that have

Well TBH trolls like you have a net negative effect on the entire discourse and the culture here. I generally don't think it's good for the culture for people to engage trolls, but egad, I stepped on a landmine and here we are. It's not good when the community has to spell it out in black and white, but what I am basically saying is, stop embarrassing yourself and don't bother commenting if you can't offer anything positive. You haven't offered one goddamn source or citation, just your feelings. Please spare us!

Re:Freeman Dyson Has Died by briantakita on Friday February 28, 2020 @11:42PM (#22448876)
Freeman Dyson did speak out against climate alarmism. He provides some insightful counterpoints to the prevailing APW narrative, particularly about taking models on faith & the provisional nature of science. Given he was directly involved with some of the initial climate models, it's an interesting take on how models of complex nonlinear systems often oversimplify reality with assumptions. It seems like good general wisdom re: models in any domain exhibiting similar complexity & nonlinearity.

https://youtu.be/BiKfWdXXfIs

Re:Freeman Dyson Has Died by titzer on Saturday February 29, 2020 @03:52AM (#22449688)
Thanks for the link. I watched a bit of that.

Freeman Dyson's opinion is one of skepticism, not denial. Unfortunately I don't think he's deeped in the science or the messiness of climate modeling, so I think he's just not an expert here. Bright, even eminent scientists can be wrong, even in their areas of expertise. For example, Ernst Mach was famous for not believing atoms exist, even declaring it loudly after having heard a lecture by Boltzmann. Einstein firmly opposed the nondeterminism underlying quantum mechanics, refusing to believe that physics is not deterministic (this is the source of his famous "God does not play dice" quote.)