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Re:A hacker's mom broke into a prison and the warden's computer by ska on Thursday February 27, 2020 @12:29PM (#22435471)
In the US sometimes the evidence isn't clear that facilitating "join back to society" is an actual goal (it's often a stated goal). It often doesn't seem to be a policy priority.
Re:A hacker's mom broke into a prison and the warden's computer by Broken_Hippo on Thursday February 27, 2020 @12:58PM (#22435787)
It most definitely isn't a priority: If it were, the US would look at other countries with lower recidivism rates and spend a bit more on things like mental health care, halfway houses, job placement, and so on.
Re:A hacker's mom broke into a prison and the warden's computer by zoonosis on Thursday February 27, 2020 @01:41PM (#22436298)
While I agree that the US prison system has many issues, recidivism rates can't really be compared between countries because of differences in time frames and rearrest vs re-conviction.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4472929/

Re:A hacker's mom broke into a prison and the warden's computer by robocat on Thursday February 27, 2020 @03:01PM (#22437189)
The issue is not about comparing recidivism rates.

It is whether the US is looking at the results achieved by other countries and whether the US is trying to emulate successful strategies.

As a sweeping generalisation, I see that the US says "that doesn't apply to us", always finding some weird excuse. Your invalid response is kind of an example.

Re:A hacker's mom broke into a prison and the warden's computer by wahern on Thursday February 27, 2020 @04:35PM (#22438209)
How do you "[look] at the results achieved by other countries" if those results aren't reported?

It's a fairly common sentiment that the U.S. penal system is heavily skewed toward retribution than reformation.[1] But identifying a problem on the one hand, and quantifying and addressing it on the other, are two entirely separate tasks. The latter is typically much more difficult.[2]

[1] Justice Anton Scalia admitted as much in court, "Well, I thought that modern penology has abandoned that rehabilitation thing, and they--they no longer call prisons reformatories or--or whatever, and punishment is the--is the criterion now. Deserved punishment for crime." Oral argument, Miller v. Alabama, 2012.

[2] Thus the quip, "Everybody complains about the weather, but nobody does anything about it." A reformulation of a Charles Dudley Warner quote, who, interestingly, also seems to have been an advocate for prison reform in his time, among many other civic and political reforms. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Dudley_Warner and https://books.google.com/books?id=ktwRAAAAYAAJ&q=+%22little+....

Re:A hacker's mom broke into a prison and the warden's computer by ska on Thursday February 27, 2020 @01:17PM (#22436028)
I'm hedging a bit because I don't have a good sense of how things are country wide, but there are some clear cases where it is not.
Re:A hacker's mom broke into a prison and the warden's computer by DyslexicAtheist on Thursday February 27, 2020 @05:45PM (#22438795)
prison isn't designed for reintegrating back into society!

If you look at this recent paper[1] by the lancet on "The psychological impact of quarantine and how to reduce it: rapid review of the evidence" (coincidentally it's about the corona virus) then you might notice that the effects of isolation are exactly what prisons are designed to do[2]. For quarantines it's a huge dilemma ofc.

[1] https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panopticon

Re:A hacker's mom broke into a prison and the warden's computer by michaelbrave on Thursday February 27, 2020 @06:47PM (#22439217)
So long as there is a permanent criminal record and jobs can not hire people based on that no real change will come.
Re:A hacker's mom broke into a prison and the warden's computer by ta999999171 on Thursday February 27, 2020 @04:35PM (#22438212)
Why would it be, when your donors are the private prison owners?